[ SECRET POST #2122 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2122 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 034 secrets from Secret Submission Post #303.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

oh well, then i guess i will be rude as hell. all my interactions with sterek shippers have been negative, upsetting, and at times triggering not only for myself but others. when it comes time to point out someone being fucked up, the person calling out is the bad guy and all the other little shipper friends rally around, complaining about how it's so terrible to call so-and-so homophobic or racist or whatever. it makes my life easier to assume someone is an asshole until proven otherwise....and that has yet to happen.

i also don't give a FUCK if i hurt someone's poor little feels by calling them out as racist or whatever. maybe they shouldn't say terrible shit if they don't want to be assumed to be a terrible person :)

[(Anonymous)]

Oh for fuck's sake. Yes, if people say terrible shit, then call them out on it. If people are happily writing fic/drawing art/what have you of a pairing that's not your cup of tea and not actually saying or doing anything fucked up, don't accuse them of something horrible and then complain about them taking offense at it or not responding to your objections in the way you want.

I deal with assholes all the time. They're incredibly easy to...manipulate.

[pynapel]

hey psst:

we're not talking about those people



generalization? what's that????

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, generalization is horrible. Like generalizing that all Sterek shippers are prejudiced. Or that everyone's an asshole until proven otherwise. Two examples.

[pynapel]

When someone generalizes, it's pretty much guaranteed that they KNOW not everyone is like that. So when the listener points this out, it just shows that:

1. The listener isn't really listening
2. The listener doesn't care about what the speaker is saying
3. The listener is more concerned with defending themselves/playing devil's advocate that hearing someone express their feelings
4. The listener is a derailing asshole


It serves NOTHING in a conversation to whine about how "not everyone is like that".

[(Anonymous)]

Well, first of all, I disagree with your statement that "it's pretty much guaranteed that they KNOW not everyone is like that." If you think that's true...

Secondly, as I've said repeatedly from the very beginning, if a person really wants to have a conversation about this issue they're so concerned about, they'd recognize and appreciate that accusing "the listener" of something (especially if, as you say, they know that's not always/necessarily the case) also serves absolutely nothing. If you want to make assumptions and refuse to acknowledge any points someone has and be hypocritical, don't pretend you want to have a conversation.

And now I'm so done. I have better things to do than try to point out that "not everyone is like that" has almost nothing to do with what I've been saying.

[(Anonymous)]

why the fuck do you and others always bring up these faceless people who are nice and polite and do nothing wrong, and act like OH NO!! people are going out and stomping on their sandcastles and ruining their fun.

no one fucking does that, and it's derailing as shit to always bring them up. obviously if people are talking about assholes in fandom who are racist, sexist, whatever-ist THEY AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE.

[(Anonymous)]

"No one" does that? That...that sounds like a generalization.

And by the way, people taking a single sentence out of the context of a larger comment, twisting its meaning around, and derailing the subject of this secret into an argument over isms/assholes in fandom? Not exactly supporting your claim here.

[(Anonymous)]

riiiiiight cause there is NO connection between sterek and -isms in fandom. at all. total derailment.

you can go back to your tumblr pals how and your boring white dicks cause this conversation is clearly going to go nowhere.

[(Anonymous)]

There's ABSOLUTELY a connection between Sterek the entire entertainment industry and -isms. There are far better ways to attempt to change that, however (still my original point). Tumblr isn't one of them, which is why I'm not on it, but thanks for making assumptions about that and my fandom interests in boring white dicks.

Also, thanks for the fun. ;)