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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-28 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2126 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2126 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly the majority of Marvel/DC comics are fanfic. So.... yep. It's fanfic. It's the same sorts of plots that appeal to the writers and inconsistent characterization and all of that.

Look for one-author stuff. Like Transmetropolitan. Just... damn. Transmet's probably one of The Best comics I've ever read for the way the art and writing work together. Though it is fairly dark and raw.

The other possibility is to look for self-contained arcs or books. I'll warn you, it's hard as hell! Comics freakin' love to have more cameos and guest stars than a 8th season sitcom.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-28 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, this. It makes me shake my head when people try to insist that anything that happened since the '90s in Marvel/DC comics is "part of the source material" or an "integral part of the character" because lol omg. Seriously? So, would you consider it true to the source material if Mephisto showed up in The Amazing Spider-Man 3 then? :D

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends.

Many people are happy about Winter Soldier, for example, in the upcoming Captain America movie.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Funnily enough, this is exactly WHY I'm side-eyeing the hell out of CA2 (and IM3, but especially CA2). So many decades of potential to wring out of both those characters' current situations as of the end of The Avengers, and tptb are dismissing it all and skipping over all those possibilities to get at the recent/current comics stuff? *shaking my head*

(Anonymous) 2012-10-29 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
MCU doesn't need to follow 616 timelines, it's its own seperate universe. They've already proven that by shaking up the timeline in Iron Man by shoving plot points that happened in the span of several in-universe years into a few months in the movie while ignoring others for later. And it worked.

Not to mention MCU Bucky has an entirely different origin story then 616, it's possible and likely for MCU Winter Soldier to have an entirely different timeline.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-28 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, hey, this is fandom secrets. We like fanfics here. Not to mention, there is good and bad in any media, it's not something unique to mainstream comic books or fanfiction.

I'd say Mainstream comic books are basically the written version on soap operas. Just that, while soap operas cater to women and focus on romance, drama and comedy, superhero comic books focus on action, fantasy and sci-fi.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-28 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, obviously there are good comics just like there is good fanfic, but it also pretty much subscribes to Poe's Law because the writers just do whatever the fuck they want with the character in ridiculously self-indulgent ways without caring how it screws with the character in the long run.

Comics were like soap-operas back when they still did it all by committee, but now they're just one guy's mouthpiece. Sometimes, that can be awesome if the guy with the mouthpiece is an awesome writer with a good sense of the character, but it's wildly inconsistent. Imagine all the fanfics you've read trying to be all in continuity with each other.