[ SECRET POST #2126 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2126 ⌋

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Comments

[redseeker]

You know what's really excellent research? Watching the show.

[(Anonymous)]

If I don't like a main actors voice - nope! Can't do it.

Also, someone up thread mentioned a few tons of reasons why some people may not be up for watching a show.

Personally, I do much, much, much better with written works than TV shows.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, gosh, voices. I really want to watch Avatar:TLA but something about the child voice actors just doesn't work for me and I can't make it through an episode.

(see also: huge swaths of comics, both american and japanese, if the writing is great but the art doesn't work for me. may love the fandom, can't do the canon. [for some reason european comics never have art quite that terrible.])

[redseeker]

That's sort of... weirdly specific.

I just think that if you haven't looked at the source material, preferably pretty closely, there are going to be inaccuracies and errors in any fic you write. I'm part of a fandom where a lot of the fanfic seems to be based almost entirely on fanon - I've recently started watching the original souce material (it's Transformers fandom - I've watched and written for some continuities/series but not the first one) and realised how little I recognise from the fics I have read over the years.

[(Anonymous)]

It depends on exactly what kind of fic your writing doesn't it?

If you're writing one that fits smoothly into canon vs. an alternate reality where a few things are different vs. a straight up AU.

I mean, lots of people deliberately change details when they write, so how the hell are you going to tell if they did it on purpose and liked theirs better or if they actually weren't aware.

Also, in a lot of shows to get all the details you have to watch the show over and over and over again and not everyone has that kind of time - looking it up online is faster and often just as accurate, so I don't see why people can't use that as their primary source.

[redseeker]

I think most often it's the characterisation that suffers - the plot details you can get from a wiki, but not a character's speech patterns, mannerisms, how they move, etc. I think characterisation should remain consistent with the source material - within reason (i.e. if the situation is vastly different to canon, such as in an AU, then a certain degree of license is needed) - whether you're writing an AU or not.

It's fair enough of you prefer fanon over canon, but it can be alienating and disappointing for someone looking for stories based on something they love from canon.

A couple of examples off the top of my head.. there are three characters in my fandom who are often written as being very close, very supportive of one another, almost familial in their bonds. I read fics here and there before watching the actual show - only to find that in the source material this relationship just flat out doesn't exist. Whereas on the flip-side, a pairing that I really like in the show seems largely to be written using fan-based characterisation that again bears little relation to the source material - people write what kind of relationship they want to write and read about, I suppose, and twist the characters to fit the archetypes they want. That's fine if you're just doing it for fun, but as I said it can be disappointing for a reader.

I'm the kind of fan-writer that always tries to use the source material for research, and wikis and such to fill in any gaps, e.g. for expanded universe stuff that isn't in the original show. If I find myself losing a character's 'voice', I go back and watch a few episodes again to get it back. Different strokes, I suppose.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, Transformers fandom is utterly rife with fanon concepts and characterization, which I swear a lot of is fans reading fic without watching the canon and then writing fics based on the fics and then people reading those fics and writing based on them and so on and so forth until you have this utterly warped version of canon reality that has little to do with actual canon. It's like photocopying a photocopy over and over.

I actually bumped into someone who was convinced that Prowl and Jazz were OMG totally canon! who then admitted she'd never actually watched G1 and was just assuming from all the fic about them that, you know, they actually had significant and shippy interaction in the show.

Except not really, no.

[redseeker]

a lot of is fans reading fic without watching the canon and then writing fics based on the fics and then people reading those fics and writing based on them and so on and so forth until you have this utterly warped version of canon reality that has little to do with actual canon. It's like photocopying a photocopy over and over.

This, absolutely. I mean, sure, everyone can write what makes them happy, and I'm not saying I'm "above" doing it myself, but... yeah.

I've been in TF fandom for 5 years but am only recently watching G1. I've been involved in the fandoms for some of the other continuities, but only read the odd fic for G1, and it's weird seeing things I thought were canon - because, like that girl you mentioned, I'd only been exposed to fic - are anything but XD I'm trying to get through the episodes without reading fic so I can write my own stuff based on the source material and not get sucked into the fanon at this point... Almost like, idk, painting from life, rather than from someone else's painting? idk idk