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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-31 05:49 pm

[ SECRET POSTS #2128 & 2129 ]


⌈ Secret Posts #2128 & 2129 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Time Lincoln]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Repo the Genetic Opera]


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[The Avengers]


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[Homestuck/Touhou]


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[ElfQuest/Wendy Pini]


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[Reservoir Dogs + HBO's Oz]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Covert Affairs]


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[Ouran Host Club]


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[Jae Joong from DBSK and JYJ]


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[Elementary]


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[The Girls Next Door]


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[Steven Moffat]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Alan Cumming/Son of the Mask]


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[The New Normal]


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[Mass Effect]


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[Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle/xxxHolic]


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[Resident Evil 6]


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[Revenge/The Social Network]


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[Cardcaptor Sakura]


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[Glee]


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[Khimeros]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Gregory House/Lady Gaga]


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[Glee]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Madonna "Die Another Day" MV, BEG "Sixth Sense" MV]


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[Doctor Who]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 046 secrets from Secret Submission Post #304.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-11-01 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Um, guys? I'm pretty sure OP is talking about fanon Tyzula, where Azula is just a ~troubled soul~ in need of some love, and Ty Lee puts up with her insanity long enough to 'fix it' and make her all better.

Canon Azula is psychotic and abusive (which is why we all love her). But how often is canonical Azula really paired up with Ty Lee in fanfic?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-01 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Canon Azula is psychotic and abusive (which is why we all love her).

Maybe it's why we all love her here, but on Tumblr, that sentence would get you mobbed by woobifying apologists.

And that's just sad.

To answer your question, it's extremely rare to find canon!Azula being paired with Ty Lee, which is why I've all but dropped what support I had for the ship. Too much apologizing for Azula's crimes, too much dumbing down both of them (not just Ty Lee), too little of what makes them the characters they are.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-01 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
What blogs are you following? Everyone I know on tumblr thinks Azula is fucking awesome - as a * villain*.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-01 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
And? The problem is that Ty Lee is still 'putting up' with what boils down to abusive behavior, and *that's* a bad thing. It may not be the same type of abuse, or as intense as canon Azula, but it 's still there and the OP wanting someone who'd stand there and take? Not okay.

Yes, I realize that the OP probably doesn't mean it that way, or didn't think about it...But fact remains that wanting people to put up with your shit when it gets abusive, isn't a good thing...And with the case of this pairing [and a lot of pairings like this one, tbh] it glamorizes the idea of 'I love you, so I'll stay with you no matter what you do'. In fiction that's fine, but in real life? That tends to both lead to abuse, and lend itself to the idea of 'If you ~really~ loved them you'd stay with them even if they abused you', which is something a lot of abuse victims have to go through when they try to talk about what happened. In some cases that can actually kill off their desire to reach out to someone, and get help leaving.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-11-02 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read too many Tyzula fics (it's been ages since I've really been in A:TLA fandom, and even then I never got into Tyzula), but of the ones I have read, most of them are...basically Ty Lee teaching Azula how to not be abusive. Most of them went with the angle of Azula just mimicking her dad in her relationships, and all she needed was true love and a little guidance to have a healthy relationship instead of the toxic ones her dad preferred. *shrugs*

Maybe I just got lucky. Or maybe staying away from Tumblr fandom played a much bigger role in the types of stories I stumbled across than I thought.