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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-18 02:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2147 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2147 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 100 secrets from Secret Submission Post #307.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - vader trolls and probably more later ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they got that "self-entitled attitude" because they spent at least an hour to make a product that 700 people used in some way, and are only asking that a fair number of those people take two minutes to say "nice job!" or "needs work."

Sounds fair to me. If two comments out of seven hundred views was all I got, I'd stop writing fanfic, but that's how "self-entitled" I am.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Feel free to stop then.

Also, I'd like to remind you that some writers complain about short reviews like "good job!" and/or when people fave or kudo without commenting.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have to stop, my fandom is awesome about feedback. They seem to understand that authors don't have to keep writing for them, and that their enthusiasm is a big part of why we spend time producing entertainment for other people.

If the writer in the picture had been complaining about getting short reviews or kudos, I'd agree with the OP. But if only two of 700 people can be bothered to acknowledge they even looked at the thing, I'd say that fandom doesn't want fanfic from that writer. If they do that to enough authors, well, they're not getting any fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-18 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's worse than that for me. If I got 700 views and only two comments, I would assume that the fic was a failure and everyone hated it. Well, it would depend on the size of the fandom and the pairing I was writing (assuming it was a pairing fic), but in a moderately sized fandom where I'm not writing some really rare or controversial thing, if I got those numbers I would assume it was a bad fic, whether or not that's true.

As an author, we can really only base our success on the comments and views of strangers. Obviously you have your own pride in your work, and that counts for a lot, but I post fics because I want other people to also enjoy them.

700 views and 2 reviews tells me that it's an okay fic that people read but felt "meh" about it. I guess it wasn't bad per se, since there are no flames and it did get some reviews, but that it wasn't interesting, engaging, moving or anything else that'd make people say they enjoyed it, or wanted more, or whatever.

But maybe that's par for the course, as well. The person the OP has quoted may just be a mediocre author... (Though I have seen tons of amazing fics that don't have the number of views/reviews I feel they should.)

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. Yeah, that's 100% self-entitled. Listen to yourself: "They're so LUCKY I'm gracing them with my fic! I could be kicking back, relaxing, but I'm so hard at work!"

Maybe think that those who don't comment are the kind who just don't like your work enough. Had you been a better writer, you'd get more recognition.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Troll harder.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
hope you're not ever planning on doing any professional writing.

you won't get very far.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, I'm not. And I'll be a happy person, and you'll still be a troll.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
You see, professional authors get money for doing the same work I do for free. Luckily, I enjoy attention, and I have plenty of readers who like to give it to me. This isn't self-entitlement, I do work and I get something I like in return for my work. Self-entitlement is thinking that there are people in the world who should produce fic you enjoy for no reason other than you want to read it.

But as I said in my first comment, if I was the writer in the picture, I would stop. I would be getting nothing out of it. If that's because that writer is bad, no one will care. If that writer is good, then people will learn that no one is required to give them something for nothing.

Sounds right to me.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
THIS!
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[personal profile] sultani 2012-11-19 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If on;y I could fave comments...

(Anonymous) 2012-11-21 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
You see, professional authors get money for doing the same work I do for free.

Yeah, the same work. Since fanfic writers have to develop characters and initial concepts and universe rules and all-- oh wait, you don't. You piggyback off a pro's work and expect to be fawned over because you deigned to share. Go ahead, stop writing/sharing your fics-- no one will miss you.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
I've done some math, and it turns out I only get 1 comment to every 1200 hits on my most popular fanfic, myself.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-19 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't believe 700 people read OP's fic. They probably had 700 hits and don't understand that hits don't equal individual readers.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-11-19 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Your comment is silly and nonsense. Whoops I mean I spent all the hours typing this comment. I need validation points in the form of +1s or i have to quit the internet.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-11-19 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
How dare you not acknowledge my effort¡ Before I Internet Die, I will write an angry secret about this!! And bahleet EVERYTHING.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-11-19 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow. You didn't even write WHY you liked the comment. It only takes a second to say "this". Jfc this comm is so ungrateful.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-11-19 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't like your comment. I was supporting your decision to bahleet yourself to an untimely internet death you prancing diva. I no longer like the direction your fic is going so I want you to fuck off so I can pretend I have your permission to finish it with its real, true endgame pairing.

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LOL

[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2012-11-19 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You guys are hilarious, imma go make some popcorn.
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:D

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-11-19 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
No we're on the same side! It would be pretty hypocritical of me otherwise seeing as I think I deserve all the comments if I write anything more than six sentences long on the same topic.

Actual authors deserve feedback and loves and are totally allowed to feel sad if everyone likes their stuff but ignores them. This is what fandom is for, a give-and-take exchange of ideas, creativity doesn't happen in a void people, ffs. And a lot of my favorite fandom stuff happened in comment sections. I not-so-secretly love that you love me so.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-11-20 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Heyyyyy what happened here. Did someone take something i/you said way seriously or something?
I miss everything that happens augh.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-11-20 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Someone thought I +1ed your comment on a first glance and it gave them the sads because they liii-iiike me. Don't know why they bahleeted though. Is it that shameful to have affectionate feelings for me on this comm?

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