[ SECRET POST #2148 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2148 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody in the world needs more than 100K a year to live comfortably. If they make more than that let the government take most of it and distribute it to where it can make life better for everybody.

(I'm not saying most governments do a very good job of doing that, but they really should be.)

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe not, but going to, say, Harvard for four years costs over 100K. Not that everyone goes to Harvard or advanced schooling, but there are actual RL expenses that could necessitate that sort of money.

[writerserenyty]

At this point Harvard would cost ~200k, assuming you don't have yourself some financial aid/scholarships. I know people who are going to my University who are going to be around 100k in debt, and I go to a big state university that doesn't have as much prestige as a place like Harvard.

... don't know if I have a point other than the fact that education in the US is crazy expensive now.

[(Anonymous)]

That's damn ridiculous, where I live $100,000 is just starting to be comfortable if you want to buy a house and feed your family. Why even bother working, putting in overtime, making an effort to get a good education if they take away every reward you get for your sweat and tears? All the nurses and doctors and vets and a billion other professionals should just pack up shop and go home after they make their $100,000 for the year? The rest you will hand out to people who are sitting on their asses doing nothing for society, so why even get out of bed in the morning?

[(Anonymous)]

"Where I live $100,000 is just starting to be comfortable if you want to buy a house and feed your family"

The fuck are you living??

Suggestion: It's not like you have to buy a new house every year.

[(Anonymous)]

Los Angeles. $100,000 is not all that and a bag of chips here if you want to own your own home and pay for any kind of college education for your kids.

[(Anonymous)]

You do realize that after buying said house one still has to usually make payments and upkeep, right?

[(Anonymous)]

I think "make payments" is possibly an Americanism I don't understand. What payments do you need to keep making on a house you already own? That come in in the tens of thousands of dollars a year?

[(Anonymous)]

A+

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, all those sick and disabled people, let's just kill them off so we don't have to support them.

Fuck you, you are vile. I hope to God you aren't in the above named caring professions because you have no humanity at all. And I feel sorry for your kids being brought up to believe that only having a job makes you worthwhile.

[(Anonymous)]

I would like to say that I was very poor as a kid and so I had a huge drive to work overtime and become a doctor, so I could be "comfortable." Until I grew up and realized how excessively extravagant people's definition of comfortable tends to be. So yes, as a professional who made a great effort to get an education and who knows that money is not at all the most important reward of an education, I will DEFINITELY be both working for AND handing out my extra money to the poor, needy, hungry, those looking for an opportunity a.k.a "those who are sitting on their asses doing nothing for society."

THAT's why I get out of bed in the morning

[(Anonymous)]

There is no incentive for working hard or getting a decent education in this kind of scenario. You try to do a little better for yourself and it is stolen to give to others who didn't put in the effort you did? It is nothing less than thievery.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet there are still million and billionaires who live in the United States (and take advantage of the roads the government builds and maintains, the military that protects corporate interests overseas, the currency system that allows people to actually measure and preserve and ultimately build their wealth, the police forces that keep angry mobs from coming in and stealing all your stuff, and the courts that ensure contracts are upheld and enforced), so it can't be that discouraging to people wanting to work hard and get decent educations or, more accurately, to people who have the right skill set and connections that are profitable in this economy.

Most tax dollars go toward stuff like that; safety net programs, which are super helpful when that decent education and hard work of yours ends up being meaningless in light of a financial crisis caused by foolish lending practices and a complete lack of understanding of how markets function, make up about 13% of the federal budget.

[(Anonymous)]

It all comes down to I work very hard and make a decent salary. I don't want more than is absolutely necessary to keep society funtioning taken away from me in taxes. It is absolutely not fair that I spent years in school and years building up my career so that I and my family could afford to live comfortably. I don't have millions, not by a long shot. I'm not even affected by this $250,000 income designation. I admit to envy when I look at the incredible homes and lifestyles of the wealthy. But I don't think some kind of jealous vendetta against people who have more than me is the answer. The people who vote in these higher taxes would scream bloody murder if they were asked to pay more themselves, but take it from others? Sure.
What a crock.

[(Anonymous)]

Geez, calm down. You sound like the Romney voters who were having conniptions over the election results.

Most people do not make over $250k a year. That is truly like the top 5%. It's not KILLING AMERICA to raise taxes on the income people make OVER that amount. You'd think someone was shooting Papa John in the eye with a nail gun.

/$140k household income nonny, not panicking here

[(Anonymous)]

As a matter of fact, I was a Romney voter. And I was very upset by the results of the election. Very rare in fandom, I know. But we are out there - those of us who don't believe that government is the answer to every question. And before you go off on me, I am an athiest, campaigned for gay marriage in my state, believe in evolution and am pro-choice. A registered Independent. I am, however, a fiscal conservative to the core.

[(Anonymous)]

The funny thing is the income that they're talking about taxing starts at 250,000. Apparently middle class now = 250,000, and above that is upper class. I knew I was lower class I just never realized how low. :(

[(Anonymous)]

A firefighter and a RN as a couple could easily make this with overtime. It's not all that much, considering the REALLY SUPER RICH who pull in millions.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm an engineer, and I'll never make that much money a year as long as I live.

[(Anonymous)]

Comparing $250,000 to the REALLY SUPER RICH isn't going to give you an accurate understanding of how much that is.

$250,000 is a shit ton of money to a *lot* of people.

making money

[(Anonymous)]

My chosen profession requires a Master's degree and will net me maybe 60,000 per year, assuming I find a job in a large city. In a smaller one, it might be lower than 40,000 a year, which is, incidentally, about what my family lived on when I was growing up, and as far as I knew my family was not only middle class but better off than almost all my friends and close relatives. Before anyone mentions relative cost of living, I grew up in Southern California within five minute's walk of the beach in a big tourist trap town. But by Romney's standards, I'm so far below the middle class, his 'middle class' couldn't see me with a telescope.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't understand why you're saying that. I earn a certain wage for a certain amount of work, but you get to decide that I don't actually get to get paid the amount I want to work for, which also happens to be the amount someone wants to pay me? What made you the person who gets to decide this?

[(Anonymous)]

So shut up and pay for paved roads and hospital equipment and childcare fees and sewage treatment and garbage disposal out of your own pocket. Bet you end up with more money in your pocket at the end of the day this way. /sarcasm

[(Anonymous)]

Paved roads, schools, police and every government program ever are why you can't keep ever single cent that someone wants to pay you.

And the people who decided how much you pay in taxes is the government that you elected.

[(Anonymous)]

Money isn't objectively worth anything. Not even in an agreement between you and this employer, unless you're working on some kind of milk-for-chickens bartering system.

The value of what you earn is determined by all the factors that make up the system in the country in which you live. The fact that a person can work a full-time manual labour job and not be able to afford a house is a factor with ramifications for you and your employer striking your deal.

And paying taxes is part of that system too. If nobody paid taxes, the money he was willing to pay you would be Monopoly money. It would have no value. Except maybe as kindling to try and get a fire started in the goddamn cave in which you would be living.