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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-21 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2150 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't think you understand my meaning here.

Just because it's used as a swear doesn't somehow magically erase the root meaning of the word.


Also, I just realized I've been spelling root wrong throughout the rest of this thread. Woops.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it means female genitalia. No, that does not automatically make it the worst and most hateful swearword ever, ever, ever. No, it does not mean the usage of the word cannot evolve over time. In fact, in it's original usage, it simply meant female genitalia and had no negative connotations whatsoever. It was a commonplace word used in regular conversational speech. The vulgarity and negativity came later. The impact has become lessened again in parts of the UK where it now a common mild swearword and, indeed, sometime just a descriptor of a body part. Guess what I usually call my genitals? Clue: it's not my downstairs lady-garden

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
When it's used as a descriptor of a body part, it's not really sexist.

When it's used as a swearword, it's sexist, for all the reasons I've already explained.

There, does that help?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Have you ever considered being less patronising? I don't require your help. I understand what you are saying. It happens that I disagree with what you are saying. I think calling someone a cunt is no more inherently sexist than calling someone a prick.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I've considered it, in the past. And dismissed it, because I see no reason I should have to pretend to respect people that defend sexism or any other kind of bigotry.

You think. Okay. Well, you're wrong. Sorry!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I'll be sure to lose sleep over that.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
SUBJECTIVE TRUTH RULES ALL. MY SUBJECTIVE TRUTH!

Mine tells me your a real dick. Grow a pair of fucking balls and stop whining, little boy.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, this is a great idea, laugh at the stupid silly bitchy cunts that make a fuss about sexism and then make a comment you know is misogynist because lol that's funny and awesome, you're such a great guy!

[personal profile] sopphs 2012-11-22 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I never see anyone making a fuss over someone using prick as a swear word. And it means penis.
Because, as the word cunt, it all depends of the context. Context. Something that changes everything in language and that some people fail to understand.

When you say dick and prick you're not thinking that male people are inferior. But the root of the word tell us that that guy is a dick, we're saying that he is a big male genitalia. Does that mean that it is what that word means all the time? No, because of ~context~. Because of something called ~evolution of the language~. Because meaning changes depending of the time, place, context where you say something. So, therefore, when we're using dick or prick or any variant as a swear word we're not using that as an insult because of the thought that being associated with a penis is an insult. We're saying that that someone is stupid. Plain as it can get.

So why should a different attitude be applied to cunt? Because of the oppression of the woman? That's trying to use the word misogyny on every single thing when it doesn't apply. It exists. It is a huge problem. I'm a woman and I feel it in my skin. But fussing over every single thing is not going to help the feminist cause.

I think if extreme SJ people ruled the world, everyone would be afraid of saying anything because you can always find something that offends someone on everything. And the problem of this begun when people thought they were right to oppress people because of they're capacity of being offended by a broken toenail.
Edited 2012-11-22 20:33 (UTC)
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[personal profile] thene 2012-11-23 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah this. I especially don't get how 'cunt' is sexist in a dialect where it's primarily used as an endearment. It's almost as if, you know, people think cunts are a good thing. Why anyone would have a problem with that, I have no idea.

(Personally, I am pro-cunt and I just want the word de-tabooed as soon as possible so I can use it in porn in a more neutral way. Cunts are amazing, we should talk about them more.)
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-11-23 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
..okay, but you can't say that everybody using that word EVER, no matter where they come from or what languages they speak, is automatically being sexist/using a sexist term by default. that's a really egocentric point of view. just because 'cunt' means something bad in America doesn't mean that it means something bad in a different country, where it may have a different meaning or connotation. by the same point that you just made, then why should 'fag' be offensive? because originally the word 'fag' meant something else before it was a homophobic insult, so in that case, no LGBT person anywhere should ever be offended by it, because hey, the root word! it meant something different originally! therefore it can't be offensive ever!

inb4 get called homophobe. no.