[ SECRET POST #2150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's because SJWs on the internet are almost exclusively American and they make so much noise and are so tiring that's it's difficult to give a shit about anything they say or even notice when it's a legitimate issue brought up by a rational person in a rational way (which I have yet to see happen).

[(Anonymous)]

You sound a lot like someone that is actually just an asshole who likes to look for excuses not to give a damn about any issue, legitimate or not, that's raised by someone you decide is an SJW (ie, anyone that makes a fuss about bigotry)

[(Anonymous)]

No, I just can't live my life if I get all wrapped up about what someone on the internet thinks I should care about. I have a family to take care of and a career I love. Through those things I do all I can to eradicate social injustice and end poverty and war. My job directly impacts homeless people and helps to provide them with their own shelter. It's more of an impact than I've seen from anyone ranting on the internet that people *should* do something about an issue because the ranter wants them to.

[(Anonymous)]

So.

"Get a life and quit caring about these things because no one else with a life gives a fuck about bigotry"


Okay, that's a pretty good come back, I must admit.

[(Anonymous)]

That isn't what I typed at all. It's a shame if that's what you read. Life must be difficult for you.

[(Anonymous)]

(completely new anon. - before things get more confusing)

You know, I probably shouldn't bother. The correct translation is "get a life, get off you ass and actually DO something productive about those issues you claim to care about."

Does that work or should I use smaller words?

[insanenoodlyguy]

Hey shelter anon (okay to call you that?) Since SJW anon already godwin'd above, mind if I talk to you? I have a legitimate, non trolling question.

While there's most definitely a stigma unfairly attached to the homseless population in general, I've done some volunteer work in soup kitchens and it's also true that in addition to those who have had unfortionate circumstances, there is a notable section of that poplulation that has mental disabilities/impairments, substance abuse problems, or often both. How, typically, does your organization work to address giving those individuals care, if at all? (Which is not any sort of shot at you guys but a recognition of your funding/manpower limitations)

[(Anonymous)]

We don't directly deal with that, but we have partner organisations that do. People with mental disabilities/impairments or a history of substance abuse go through treatment programmes, which aren't really all that helpful. Once they do, they may qualify for our housing programme. People with severe mental problems tend to do better long term because they often have home care assistance of some sort. The managing directors of all the partnered programmes work closely together and it's common for everyone to be focussed on a small group of clients at once. I'm the first to admit that it isn't a perfect system, but it does work. I've been with this organisation since 2001 and have personally helped to house 46 clients (sometimes with families but most not) and my organisation has helped 1183 clients (again, some with families, some not) since 2000. Of the 46 I helped to house, only one has lost eligibility and another client who had a long wait before them was housed much quicker than expected.

[insanenoodlyguy]

So what about the people in the midst of the program? Is that one of the partner organizations purview?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. Many of the treatment programmes are in-hospital, but those that aren't provide temporary housing to all of their clients. One of the partner oraganisations also provides temporary housing for clients who have been deemed eligible and are waiting for permanent housing. One of the branches of my organisation is responsible for building the housing and it's designated as either temporary or permanent. In the case of those who have gone through treatment programmes, they are subject to home visits no more than twice a year for five years unless there is a problem with the visit, such as a client who was treated for substance abuse is using again. The client I had who lost eligibility lost it for that reason and it's a long process. He was offered many options including another in-hospital treatment programme. He refused treatment and kept using for six months, so we had to relocate him.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Unfortunate. Still, it sounds like noble work you do. Please carry on actually being useful, awesome Shelter Anon. Know it's appreciated. You folks don't get told that enough.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! There are a great many of us who try. I just wish we could do more, but I know screaming about what is right and what is wrong on the internet isn't what changes things.
~Shelter Anon (I think I'm going to use that from now on *g*)

[insanenoodlyguy]

Not sure how often it'll apply, but feel free!

I find it hilarious amidst all the wank and trolling, there's this little section of discussion regarding actual helpful social contribution.

[(Anonymous)]

Discussions like this are why I love F!S and the internet in general.

[(Anonymous)]

While there's most definitely a stigma unfairly attached to the homseless population in general

Actually that's an American thing that shocked me when I got exposed to it. In my country that is NOT the case at all. People see homeless people as really needing help and support.

[fuchsiascreams]

In my experience, homeless shelters are huge dumping grounds for people with mental illnesses or disabilities. I was also surprised to find while I was there that there are a large number of elderly homeless people who are there basically because their families did not want to take care of them.

[fuchsiascreams]

Thank you. Not a lot of people care or try to help homeless people, or see them as anything other than lazy, addicted, welfare-grubbing losers. And as a person who has been homeless in the past, I can assure you that that is not true.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Most American's feel the same way. The ones that are even aware of their existence, mind.

Unlike real social movements, most of them don't have the balls/ovaries/queer bits/poc bits (look I'm inclusive) to spout this bullshit in real life.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's such bullshit to say people acting as though normalized sexist slurs are totally not sexist anymore are fucking assholes and should quit doing it.