[ SECRET POST #2150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2150 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, look, in my country 'bitch' is not considered a particularly vile swear. It's probably as common as 'cunt' is where you are.

But it's still sexist, because the entire reason it's an insult is because it's comparing someone to a female dog (and also because it's frequently used against women who are 'too aggressive' - ie not deferential or submissive enough towad men - to 'put them in their place). If the insult wasn't in comparing someone to a female dog it would just be 'dog'. Which it isn't.

When the swear is tied into its attachment to women and female-ness, and when there are dozens of other swears that are swears because of their attachment to women/female-ness, it's a sexist swear. Regardless of how big of a 'shock' or how taboo it is in casual conversation.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry - to explain, when the context is that there are dozens of other swears with that same connection to women, and which have frequently been used to keep women down, it's a sexist term and part of the sexism that is prevalent in the English language.

[(Anonymous)]

I love that you use context to validate your point and claim that context is irrelevant in all other points.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

I love how I'm not actually doing that at all?

What?

Explain to me how I'm doing that.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - I thought the same thing then realised you aren't the OMG IT'S SEXIST anon.

[(Anonymous)]

What?

[diet_poison]

the entire reason it's an insult is because it's comparing someone to a female dog

Actually, to a lot of people, "bitch" is an insult because they were taught that it's an insult. Really. Very few people are deliberate about the female dog comparison.

[(Anonymous)]

exactly

when I tell people a bitch is a female dog, they give me weird looks and say "lol k" and ignore me

or they laugh and say I'm taking the word too literally

which means they weren't thinking about female dogs when they said it

[(Anonymous)]

And? What the fuck does that prove?

Just because they're not literally thinking "female dog" every time they say it doesn't erase the meaning and the context of that meaning!

Oh my god, how fucking wilfully simple-minded and ignorant do you have to be to think what you've just said is a good argument? AUGH.

I want to think everyone in this thread arguing for why sexist words aren't sexist is a troll, but unfortunately I am all to aware that this is the attitude most people in the real world share. Which is why sexism is still so very prevalent. Woohoo.

You Win.

[(Anonymous)]

It's completely sexist and can only be used in the most vile, demeaning way. In that case: you're a cunt.

[diet_poison]

Which is why sexism is still so very prevalent.

Do you honestly think the prevalence of sexism in society is due in significant part to the use of words that most people use outside their original meaning??

[diet_poison]

I think letting it be so divisive is at least as harmful as whatever "damage" it's doing (and it's unclear to me exactly what damage that is) to use words like "cunt" the way it's usually used (for example, as part of banter among friends)

[with-rainfall.livejournal.com]

This.