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⌈ Secret Post #2153 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I find her ugly. If she were a random person walking down the street, I wouldn't care. If she worked with me, I wouldn't mention my opinion on her appearance out loud. But since she's a big star and I have to see her face on every wall of every store I enter, and hear people rave about how beautiful she is, it irritates me (because I don't agree, and I'm tired of so much love without enough hate to counteract it). I vent my frustration by ragging on her. I don't go to her twitter and rage in her face, and I usually don't spew ugly insults in general forums either, but hey, some do because they like to attack or are louder than I am.

[(Anonymous)]

What is it about her you find ugly?

[(Anonymous)]

From what I remember across most pictures I've seen: she looks sickly, or like a stoner-- her eyes in particular have this not there gaze, her nose is very narrow, most of her features seemed to small for her face which made the entire structure look odd...

It could also just be her styling. I've considered a few famous people ugly, but then they changed hair or make-up styles, which made a big impact (bangs, no bangs, heavy eyeshadow, etc.,). So...*shrugs*

[(Anonymous)]

She has a very bland face for me. It's like Brad Pitt, I can see why other people would find them attractive but I find it difficult to rememeber what they even look like. I agree about her gaze, I don't know if that's natural or just a strange choice she made.

[forgottenjester]

I think it's fine if you don't find her beautiful. I would hesitate to use the word ugly simply because I'm unsure if we use the word the same way. I don't want to confuse the issue with that so I'll just assume you don't think she's pretty. That okay? (Honest question. I don't want to misinterpret you.)

I think it would be okay to talk about her looks if you're in a conversation solely about her looks. You're allowed to have your own opinion. I just think it should be stated respectfully and nicely. But say you're in a conversation about her acting skills and if you suddenly bring up her appearance I'm going to have to wonder why. It has nothing to do with her acting skill.

Also, maybe I just hang out in different places or something because the most I ever see her is here. So, I don't know, I don't understand why seeing her often would give you the right to be mean about her looks. Maybe I'm interpreting what you're saying wrong. You said ragging so to me that sounds like bullying, in a way. But you also said you do it in private? So at least you're conscientious about it.

But mostly, for me, it's less about the opinion and more about two things; how you express that opinion and whether or not that's the sole defining reason for hating on someone.

I understand I may sound a bit convoluted here. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

[(Anonymous)]

another person wondering about this... I only ever see her face online or when I am checkout and happen to glance at the tabloids. Also why does the amount of love she gets NEED to be 'counteracted' by hate?

Especially considering most of the titles on magazines that I've seen lately have been about the affair with that director. Getting called 'homewrecker' and agonizing over RPatt's relationship pains isn't exactly positive.

[(Anonymous)]

Hm...I feel the need to counteract love usually when I'm upset about being what seems to be a minority. It's a little frustrating to not be represented, because then it feels like you're all alone thinking a certain way. It feels a bit like you don't count or matter. I'm generally happy if I can find a small circle of like minded people, and we can hate in a quiet little corner somewhere.

I see her face online everywhere. Try to check out an unrelated video? There she is! Walking down the street? Her face is on a car driving past! Shopping for art supplies? BAM! Notebook and planner. Just want a T-shirt? Buy the Breaking Dawn version! Want to read an interview of an actor that quit 10 years ago? Side-bar has fresh blood still kicking! Checking my e-mail? Guess how much the movie she starred in just made! ...It just goes on and on.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe I just react to it in a different way, haha. Like, I was looking for messenger bags, and I found a New Moon messenger bag with Robert and Kristen's faces superimposed on it. And for me, it went so far beyond horrible and tasteless to enter the realm of hilarious, and I had to fight the crazy impulse to buy it! Because there is just no way to justify spending money on something that represents a franchise I hate, but it was so hilariously repellant to me that I really wanted to have it.

[(Anonymous)]

You make perfect sense, and I definitely agree. How beautiful she is or is not should not come up a discussion about her performance. That would make me think someone's got a personal agenda.

We might use the word ugly in different ways. Ugly is harsh, and reserved for when I have additional negative feelings about the person, aside from looks (say, I find them painful on the eyes and their opinions to be offensive). Not finding someone pretty is a term I'm more likely to use if I respect the person, or don't have feelings either way. I think that's the best way I can describe. I'd use 'ugly' to help fuel hate. 'Not my type' is more neutral.

There's no real right for me to be mean about her (or anyone's) looks. It's just that when you dislike someone, you'll pick them apart any little way you can. They're less likely to get a pass on things you'd let slide for someone you did like. For me, personally, I think my hate is more from Twilight being everywhere, so it's hard to avoid (when I'm trying to stay respectfully away from it), and then the Snow White movie also starring her & looking so romance oriented (guess I should've expected it). Being the forefront of those kinda gives her the brunt of my already-in-place irritation.

[forgottenjester]

Oh good. I'm glad we agree.

Ah, then we seem to use the word in a similar way.

Oh, I saw Snow White and the Huntsman. There's a little romance but I think it mostly had to do with beauty and duty. Wasn't that great but it was okay I guess. But you don't have to like her, that's fine. I just don't fully understand why it needs to be, well, expressed in such a bullying manner. I don't know.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, really? One of the trailers I saw turned me off it. I may check it out next time I'm at a friend's house then (I was very interested in the wicked queen-- love my badass villians, and she seemed the type).

I think the hateful comments go back to the grade school days. Calling someone ugly instantly makes them worse than you. It doesn't, but you'll feel cooler. I usually stop at snickering behind my hand in some far off hallway. But I guess if you're louder or more obnoxious, you'll get more reaction or do more damage. Possibly become Queen Bee... Yeah. Not nice, but it happens :x

[forgottenjester]

Ah, I can understand. Trailers are... interesting. The normally lie for all movies. If you want, I can spoil the romance bits of Snow White and the Huntsman and you can decide whether you want to see it or not. The rest of the movie was nice. It wasn't phenomenal but I enjoyed the ride.

Yeah, I think that's unfortunate.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, man. Now that you mention it, I can remember a bunch of movies I walked out of feeling mislead from the trailer (sometimes a good thing, sometimes not so much). Thanks for the offer, but I think I will just go ahead and give it a shot!

[forgottenjester]

Okay. Well, I hope you like it. If you don't, I'm sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm tired of so much love without enough hate to counteract it

That sounds like a bitter outlook.

[(Anonymous)]

Ahahaha! It is, someone above mentioned it as well. I'm okay with being bitter, since I keep it small scale and usually have a chance to vent. It doesn't need to be equal amounts hate/love; I should've worded that better. I just like to know I'm not alone with feeling a certain way. Even one other person's okay. But I'd go crazy otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough. It's only human, I guess.

[diet_poison]

because I don't agree, and I'm tired of so much love without enough hate to counteract it

This doesn't really say very good things about you...