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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-28 05:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2157 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2157 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[2 Broke Girls]


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03.
[Love Actually]


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04.
[Me and My Dick]


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05.
[Journey Into Mystery]


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06.
[cracked.com]


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07.
[Ryan Kwanten/L4D2]


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[Whispering Corridors, Memento Mori, The Wishing Stairs]


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[The Walking Dead (game)]


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10.
[Kuragehime]


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[Thor]


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[Bartimaeus]


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[The Sentinel]


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14.
[The Mentalist and The Addams Family]


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15.
[Skyfall]


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[Generator Rex]


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[Partners]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #308.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit

I realize that kuronosuke isn't trans* but your secret still implies that the only real girls are cis girls. I generally don't go all "social justice" on people but seriously, fuck you. There's no reason for this transphobic bullshit.

(Slightly related: I'm still hoping that kuronosuke will end up coming out as trans*)

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Don't be ridiculous. Kuranosuke doesn't think of himself as a girl, so he's not a real girl. No where did OP even mention trans* issues, much less imply trans girls aren't real girls.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
DA.
The phrasing of "real girls" tends to call up real = cis for a lot of people, though. The phrase in general is suspect, even when trans issues aren't involved, basically. It might not be what the OP intended, but it kind of rubbed me the wrong way too...

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
original anon here: I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
NA

I don't want to sound rude but that's a bit like saying "I don't like it when people use the word 'bitch' when clearly referring to their female dog, because in another context it is used as a gendered slur".

I'm not saying you shouldn't feel uncomfortable per se. I'm just wondering why people in this thread are trying to make this about transphobia when it clearly is about het vs femmeslash.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
"don't be ridiculous' anon from above

I agree, this is a better way of phrasing what I meant. I understand that "real girl" rubs people the wrong way no matter what, but the context makes it really clear it doesn't have anything to do with transphobia at all.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
By saying the whole quip about "real girls," they implied all of that :C Like I said, I don't really like to say this sort of thing, but it really rubbed me the wrong way.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, so it's not just me in that boat? I've hoped that for a while, but I am especially now. It'd be a hell of a lot more interesting than this "presenting as male = possible lover to Tsukimi" vs "presenting as female = just friends" stuff the recent chapters have been doing, anyways...

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd love to see them in a relationship with kuronosuke out as a trans*woman. I think it's because it reflects a previous relationship I had, but I love relationships between girls where one is mtf.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
You're being ridiculous. Nowhere did I say he wouldn't have been a real girl if he hadn't simply identified as one, your whole point is stupid. My secret implies that men who identify as men but cross-dress are not real girls, everything else you pull out of your arse. You just want to ruffle your feathers and yet claim you don't go social justice on people, whatever. No skin off my nose.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
OP, big hearts to you. Overly-sensitive people are overly-sensitive.

I'm torn on agreeing with you, though - because while I loveloveLOVE the femmeslash (I really do!), I've also got a HUGE FUCKING THING for crossdressing men. And despite its faults, I can't think of a series out there that does it as fabulously as this one... (*_*)

Still ... I would read the hell out of girl!Kuranosuke/Tsukimi fic..

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, but the secret got very little wank of which I am grateful.

While watching I thought the whole plot would've worked exactly the same if he'd been a girl. The only jokes they wouldn't be able to do with him being a girl would be the "Ohhh will they find out, no men allowed!" jokes, which were not that exciting anyway. All the other plot points would fit just as well with "Kurako" right down to the "I want her to see me as more than just friend material!" stuff.

*girly sigh*
But I can understand that tastefully done cross-dressing is rare enough as it is... still a girl can dream! *keke*
But I wonder if anime in general are more open about this topic? Just the other day I was watching Lovely Complex and there is a transwoman character. While in the beginning there is some "ick" and "lol u really kissed a man" stuff, in the end she's accepted as she is and no big deal is ever made of it again as far as I have watched. It really surprised me.