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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-10 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2169 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2169 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
How was it a threat if she was in a straightjacket and placed where she couldn't get to anyone?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Because other people could still get to her? Because he took her out of the strait jacket all the time? Because he was actively feeding her dead people?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
People could only get to her if they broke into his house like a crazy person like Michonne and looked around.

There was NOTHING to suggest that she posed any active threat and one solitary zombie in the form of a little girl could have been easily dispatched by the numerous people with guns who patrolled the community if she were to actually escape, which in and out of itself is unlikely.

And as stated elsewhere, the Governor was trying to wean her off the food.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Okay are you seriously defending someone keeping their zombie daughter tied up in their house? Are you batshit insane? You either haven't read the comics or are an awful person because he is NOT a good person, not even a little bit and that isn't changing in the show. I don't care how fucking ~*tragic*~ his life and backstory is, that does NOT excuse him being a pedophile (who makes out with his zombie daughter, who is actually his niece in the comics), rapist (he raped Michonne in the comics, REPEATEDLY AND VIOLENTLY), ruthless murderer (not kill to survive, kill and take what we want because he's a control freak and a psycho) and just a sociopath.

Rethink your life.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I have read the comics. You're an idiot if you're using canon from the COMICS to justify an argument about the SHOW. Two different things.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Except neither of us has any way of knowing what they're going to do with his character. The difference, though, is that I actually have some factual information to go on about what kind of character this person is supposed to be playing and you do not. Two different things.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Learn reading comprehension.

I said I HAVE read the comics. And the novels.

I also realize the difference between adaptations in different mediums. Especially with The Walking Dead, which is significantly different from the comics that they're based on.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I did read and fully understand that you have read the comics. That is irrelevant. The comics don't hold information that reinforces your side of this argument, and they do mine. My point is that the comics tell you what kind of character he is supposed to be playing and that is more information about what they could do to his character than you have. So, no, you learn reading comprehension.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think Carol is anything like her comicbook counterpart, despite having a daughter?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Are you really that dense?

The comics DON'T hold information regarding the show unless the show chooses to include it! The show has deviated SIGNIFICANTLY from the comic. So it's completely asinine to assume what's true in the comic is true in the show.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
If they were going to show that the governor had molested his daughter they would have done it before they killed her off.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
So? This isn't just about that. If you think that is the only bad thing he has done, you are completely misinformed. And even if he doesn't "actually rape" someone in the show, using the threat of rape to control someone is super fucked up.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
da

Fine, going from just the evidence presented on the show: the Governor killed those Army guys in cold blood for no reason. Your argument is invalid. He is beyond redemption and deserves any shit that Michonne does to him.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
For no reason? The army were a potential threat. Is understanding character motivation really that hard for you?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
DA: Anyone who isn't under his control is deemed a potential threat by the governor. You can call it character motivation if you like. But you're drinking some kind of Kool-Aid if you think it makes him in any way sympathetic. The fact that he cares so much for his brain-dead zombie daughter (and notice that they routinely head-shot their own dead, because they don't let their own turn) vs. actual uninfected people tells you a lot about his character and motivations.

Trolling, I presume.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
The army was a potential threat to his dictatorship, yeah.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
DA

A potential threat to WHOM, exactly? The National Guard group had no idea Woodbury was there, and if they did, there was no reason to suspect that they would have tried to harm them. There was no high-minded attempt to protect his people from a "potential threat" there -- he hunted them down, murdered them, and took their stuff. If he had any notion that what he was doing was anything other than murder and theft, he wouldn't have felt the need to lie to his own townspeople about the Guards' "tragic death at the hands of biters."

Apparently understanding character motivation is really that hard for SOMEbody.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but you are clearly too frigging stupid to deal with.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
DA

The men with guns patrol the walls, not the streets. If she ever got out (and if there's one thing I think the show has taught us, it's that something will always go wrong and the zombie will always get out, usually because someone is being an idiot), she could easily wreak havoc on the town before she's brought down, simply because she looks like a little girl. The Governor has been keeping her groomed and cleanly dressed, so she's not immediately recognizable as a zombie, especially if it's dark or there's confusion. Look how Michonne assumed she was a live girl until she pulled the bag off her head.

Keeping active zombies inside Woodbury's perimeter is just begging for trouble. Penny posed a threat to the 75 people living in the town, many of whom are civilians and children. The Governor was criminally irresponsible to keep her there secretly.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-11 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
The infection must be contained. Allowing a carrier to continued to exists is a threat to humanity.

Even if he was a steallar guy, she'd have been right in the aspect of killing him itself.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Except there's no way to contain the infection because EVERYONE IS INFECTED.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2012-12-11 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
But everyone is not the slavering undead until they die. And they die quicker if bitten, scratched, etc.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-11 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
YES THERE IS. IF IT DIES, MAKE SURE IT STAYS DEAD IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

The governor failed at this. Michonne did not.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
But not everyone knows it...

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
At this point all the major characters do.