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[ SECRET POST #2169 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2169 ⌋

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Because other people could still get to her? Because he took her out of the strait jacket all the time? Because he was actively feeding her dead people?

People could only get to her if they broke into his house like a crazy person like Michonne and looked around.

There was NOTHING to suggest that she posed any active threat and one solitary zombie in the form of a little girl could have been easily dispatched by the numerous people with guns who patrolled the community if she were to actually escape, which in and out of itself is unlikely.

And as stated elsewhere, the Governor was trying to wean her off the food.

Okay are you seriously defending someone keeping their zombie daughter tied up in their house? Are you batshit insane? You either haven't read the comics or are an awful person because he is NOT a good person, not even a little bit and that isn't changing in the show. I don't care how fucking ~*tragic*~ his life and backstory is, that does NOT excuse him being a pedophile (who makes out with his zombie daughter, who is actually his niece in the comics), rapist (he raped Michonne in the comics, REPEATEDLY AND VIOLENTLY), ruthless murderer (not kill to survive, kill and take what we want because he's a control freak and a psycho) and just a sociopath.

Rethink your life.

I have read the comics. You're an idiot if you're using canon from the COMICS to justify an argument about the SHOW. Two different things.

Except neither of us has any way of knowing what they're going to do with his character. The difference, though, is that I actually have some factual information to go on about what kind of character this person is supposed to be playing and you do not. Two different things.

Learn reading comprehension.

I said I HAVE read the comics. And the novels.

I also realize the difference between adaptations in different mediums. Especially with The Walking Dead, which is significantly different from the comics that they're based on.

I did read and fully understand that you have read the comics. That is irrelevant. The comics don't hold information that reinforces your side of this argument, and they do mine. My point is that the comics tell you what kind of character he is supposed to be playing and that is more information about what they could do to his character than you have. So, no, you learn reading comprehension.

Do you think Carol is anything like her comicbook counterpart, despite having a daughter?

Are you really that dense?

The comics DON'T hold information regarding the show unless the show chooses to include it! The show has deviated SIGNIFICANTLY from the comic. So it's completely asinine to assume what's true in the comic is true in the show.

I didn't say the comics hold information regarding the show. I said they hold information that reinforces my side of the argument. The character the actor who plays the Governor is supposed to be portraying is a horrible piece of shit in the comics. Since neither of us know what they plan to do with his character in the show from this point onward but the only idea we could possibly have about it is information from the comics, my side of the argument is stronger.

Then you're making assumptions based on very little.

If the Governor was at all the depraved sadist from the comics, they would have shown it already as opposed to downplaying it.

Oh and claiming he isn't a shitty person in the show isn't making assumptions?

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(Anonymous) - 2012-12-11 01:01 (UTC) - Expand

DA

There are certain things they are never going to be able to air. There's a reason AMC is the network that has TWD. All the other ones didn't want to touch it for the gore factor it already had, never mind if they'd brought some of that background into it. In short, the Governor is as fucked up as ever, but they can't air a lot of it. But they have said this is where we see him devolve. Ala Shane I suppose. He's been holding on for a while, but he's losing it and he was always going to.

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(Anonymous) - 2012-12-11 03:28 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2012-12-11 04:33 (UTC) - Expand

DA

The comics would also tell you that Rick Grimes can't clap.

Just saying.

If they were going to show that the governor had molested his daughter they would have done it before they killed her off.

So? This isn't just about that. If you think that is the only bad thing he has done, you are completely misinformed. And even if he doesn't "actually rape" someone in the show, using the threat of rape to control someone is super fucked up.

No, but you said he was a pedophile like that was a fact established in the show.

Even if he's still a horrible person, they're obviously toning his character down from the comics and making him a little more sympathetic.

da

Fine, going from just the evidence presented on the show: the Governor killed those Army guys in cold blood for no reason. Your argument is invalid. He is beyond redemption and deserves any shit that Michonne does to him.

For no reason? The army were a potential threat. Is understanding character motivation really that hard for you?

DA: Anyone who isn't under his control is deemed a potential threat by the governor. You can call it character motivation if you like. But you're drinking some kind of Kool-Aid if you think it makes him in any way sympathetic. The fact that he cares so much for his brain-dead zombie daughter (and notice that they routinely head-shot their own dead, because they don't let their own turn) vs. actual uninfected people tells you a lot about his character and motivations.

Trolling, I presume.

The army was a potential threat to his dictatorship, yeah.

DA

A potential threat to WHOM, exactly? The National Guard group had no idea Woodbury was there, and if they did, there was no reason to suspect that they would have tried to harm them. There was no high-minded attempt to protect his people from a "potential threat" there -- he hunted them down, murdered them, and took their stuff. If he had any notion that what he was doing was anything other than murder and theft, he wouldn't have felt the need to lie to his own townspeople about the Guards' "tragic death at the hands of biters."

Apparently understanding character motivation is really that hard for SOMEbody.

I'm sorry, but you are clearly too frigging stupid to deal with.

da

How naive are you? Ever see Day of the Dead? Or 28 Days Later? The army is not to be trusted in the zombie apocalypse.

DA

The men with guns patrol the walls, not the streets. If she ever got out (and if there's one thing I think the show has taught us, it's that something will always go wrong and the zombie will always get out, usually because someone is being an idiot), she could easily wreak havoc on the town before she's brought down, simply because she looks like a little girl. The Governor has been keeping her groomed and cleanly dressed, so she's not immediately recognizable as a zombie, especially if it's dark or there's confusion. Look how Michonne assumed she was a live girl until she pulled the bag off her head.

Keeping active zombies inside Woodbury's perimeter is just begging for trouble. Penny posed a threat to the 75 people living in the town, many of whom are civilians and children. The Governor was criminally irresponsible to keep her there secretly.

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