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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-10 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2169 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2169 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
You know what? I'm going to skip the obvious criticism of this secret. That's covered.

How about this.

If you feel like you are being shamed for not writing a slash pairing, you are full of shit. So. Very. Full. Of. Shit. There is no significant movement in fandom to force anyone to write slash if they don't like it. Are there complaints? Yes, sure, whatever. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But the culture of fandom does not shame people for writing het if they like het, or gen if they like gen.

What you have been shamed for, if you have been shamed, is he way you talk about how others write slash. Check out your tone here, and reflect a little.

Then consider the context of gays both in real life and fiction, and think a little before you try to play the victim again.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Aren't you a precious preachy little sanctimonious snowflake!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Check out your tone here

Is that tone policing I detect here? Tsk, tsk.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
.... welp, looks like someone has absolutely no idea what the tone argument/tone policing is.

protip: it isn't just using the word "tone."

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Protip: Don't take this seriously.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
But the culture of fandom does not shame people for writing het if they like het, or gen if they like gen.

Not the whole, no, but... I have to say, I've been mocked for liking het. Even called homophobic (which is ridiculous). However, that extreme is... rather the exception. Is there more slash in fandom? I'd say yes, but this really depends on the fandom and the place. But the majority of shippers just want to ship.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
but... I have to say, I've been mocked for liking het. Even called homophobic (which is ridiculous)...

You, too?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Me three.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Me four.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
You're only called homophobic by morons or if you say something homophobic.

And judging by your typing here, I'd like to say it is the latter. :/ Granted, there are plenty who are homophobic on accident because it's so ingrained in our culture.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
What, their typing is homophobic? That is a ridiculous thing to say and frankly reinforces their argument. Unless you feel that anyone who even mentions being mocked for liking gen must be, in which case you're just not very bright.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Can I ask what fandom you guys are all in, where you've experienced this? Because it doesn't sound like any fandom I've been involved in. And I'm not trying to tell you it didn't happen, I'm just curious about where people do this, since I genuinely haven't seen it before.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I have never seen anyone legit shame het shippers. People ignore them but shaming?

not really.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen people say "Ship what you will but I will judge you if you ship only het". Pretty sure there's even been a secret or two about it, at least.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Frankly, I've run across way more 'If you only ship slash, I judge you' sentiments than I ever have anything related to het.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I've run into the exact opposite. Especially when it comes to slashers "judging" canon het shippers. Stony shippers bashing Tony/Pepper is particularly rampant.
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[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2012-12-11 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
A lot Stony shippers have never been good at viewing varied shipping practices as a positive. Ever. Even pre-movies. And then it's not necessarily just Pepper catching the heat (though, I've seen enough of that to break an eyeball, I'm rolling them so hard) but Bruce, Bucky, Rhodey (who generally gets ignored more than flat out hated... but that's a totally different topic) and the list goes on.

hey are a world unto themselves, the extreme shippers of any kind and I'm sure that's true in any ship and any fandom.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
da

I have met a lot of people who were angry and shaming slashers for not having a vagina in their pairing, calling them misogynistic, even though there were usually strong female characters in most slash fics i read. Seemed to me at least in those fics i read even when the pairing is M/M, the author does love women.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Key word: ONLY.

Because it means you're not going to ship any gay couples, even if they're fucking canon.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I don't judge, but it does give me pause and mostly because, in the experiences I've had with people, if they turn up shipping only het, it doesn't take long before they unwittingly express homophobic comments. It hasn't been all of them, obviously, but enough that I do wonder.