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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-10 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2169 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Obligatory to this conversation: olive skin =/= dark skin. It describes the undertones of your skin color, not the overall shade. There ARE fair olive-skinned people. Just saying.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Regardless, JLaw doesn't have olive skin.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. So fucking tired of the above type of comment.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. But it's not as radical a difference as if Prim were cast as white. Well, maybe it is-- Katniss's racial makeup is ambiguous at best. But pointing to "olive skin" is not the smoking gun.
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[personal profile] rivia 2012-12-11 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
to be fair, if 'olive skin' (haven't read the series btw) is the only descriptor given to katniss' skin, the fact that white is still the default assumption is still not that great.

it's similar to the notion that hermione granger could just as easily be read as black, she only got 'big front teeth' and 'bushy brown hair' as a description. though whether or not JK meant it that way is another issue, but i hope you get my point...?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
this!!!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Katniss' sister and mom are described as blonde, fair-skinned and blue-eyed, though...
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[personal profile] rivia 2012-12-11 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
ah, alright. like i said i haven't read the books so i'm just going by the comments.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no worries!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
There's a strong implication in the books that Katniss (who looks like her late father and most of the workers from the more impoverished Seam) is mixed (her mother was from the slightly more comfortable village and Prim might be "passing" as they say).

BUT YOU KNOW. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POSSIBILITY OF GENETICS. COULD BE WHITE MUST BE WHITE.
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[personal profile] rivia 2012-12-11 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, I understand that, but again, having not read the books and previously heard nothing about what her father looks like, it was kind of hard to say. yeesh.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
How I understood it is this: District 12 has two basic categories. One is darker skinned with black hair and grey eyes. The other is fair skinned with blonde hair and blue eyes. Katniss's and Prim's father belonged to the first category; their mother to the second. They're essentially biracial with Katniss taking after their father and Prim after their mother.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2012-12-11 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
And that's an absolultely valid interpretation. That was mine too when reading. But I don't think it is the only valid one. So I don't think casting Lawrence was wrong, and I think she did and looked just fine as Katniss. Just auditioning white people for the roll was bad because Katniss is not clearly white. But casting a white person wasn't wrong because one valid interpretation is that Katniss is white.

I'm not saying there wasn't racism, because there was. But the racism was in the limited auditioning, not in the casting.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, this; i'm fair-skinned and olive. i thought jennifer lawrence was fine anyway, and she looked a little olive to me? i could see that she has bronzer or something on.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
You mean brownface?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Bronzer is.. not brownface...

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Putting makeup on your skin to make yourself look darker is brownface. Sit down and shut up, whitey.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
LOLOLOLOL!!! (Not laughing with you, just at you.)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Better start picketing the self-tanner aisles at stores.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh you.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
lol bitch, you trolling?

shouldn't bite, but I will - JLaw didn't wear makeup to make herself a different race, first of all. In the movie there was no pretext that she was anything other than white. I don't know if she even DID wear bronzer but she certainly didn't make herself a color that she couldn't be naturally.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Cultural appropriation of skin pigment. (Sarcasm)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
What? Seriously, what?