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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-10 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2169 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
tbh she still looks too white to be katniss. I am white and I always pictured Katniss as a POC, an obvious one at that (and Kaya is not obviously half Brazilian, she looks whiter than I do ffs). I wanted her to have the olive skin she was described having. But regardless of her looks, JLaw is an awful actress (I was embarrassed for her through the whole movie) and it makes me laugh how everyone jizzes their pants every time she says ANYTHING because OMG SHE'S SO QUIRKY AND 'REAL', NOT LIKE ALL THOSE OTHER TOTES FAKE CELEBS.
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[personal profile] morieris 2012-12-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously...I will admit that part of my irrational dislike is because she got the part while looking the TOTAL opposite of Katniss, but people falling over her for that is annoying.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Obligatory to this conversation: olive skin =/= dark skin. It describes the undertones of your skin color, not the overall shade. There ARE fair olive-skinned people. Just saying.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Regardless, JLaw doesn't have olive skin.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. So fucking tired of the above type of comment.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. But it's not as radical a difference as if Prim were cast as white. Well, maybe it is-- Katniss's racial makeup is ambiguous at best. But pointing to "olive skin" is not the smoking gun.
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[personal profile] rivia 2012-12-11 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
to be fair, if 'olive skin' (haven't read the series btw) is the only descriptor given to katniss' skin, the fact that white is still the default assumption is still not that great.

it's similar to the notion that hermione granger could just as easily be read as black, she only got 'big front teeth' and 'bushy brown hair' as a description. though whether or not JK meant it that way is another issue, but i hope you get my point...?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
this!!!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Katniss' sister and mom are described as blonde, fair-skinned and blue-eyed, though...
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[personal profile] rivia 2012-12-11 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
ah, alright. like i said i haven't read the books so i'm just going by the comments.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no worries!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
There's a strong implication in the books that Katniss (who looks like her late father and most of the workers from the more impoverished Seam) is mixed (her mother was from the slightly more comfortable village and Prim might be "passing" as they say).

BUT YOU KNOW. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POSSIBILITY OF GENETICS. COULD BE WHITE MUST BE WHITE.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
How I understood it is this: District 12 has two basic categories. One is darker skinned with black hair and grey eyes. The other is fair skinned with blonde hair and blue eyes. Katniss's and Prim's father belonged to the first category; their mother to the second. They're essentially biracial with Katniss taking after their father and Prim after their mother.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2012-12-11 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
And that's an absolultely valid interpretation. That was mine too when reading. But I don't think it is the only valid one. So I don't think casting Lawrence was wrong, and I think she did and looked just fine as Katniss. Just auditioning white people for the roll was bad because Katniss is not clearly white. But casting a white person wasn't wrong because one valid interpretation is that Katniss is white.

I'm not saying there wasn't racism, because there was. But the racism was in the limited auditioning, not in the casting.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, this; i'm fair-skinned and olive. i thought jennifer lawrence was fine anyway, and she looked a little olive to me? i could see that she has bronzer or something on.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
You mean brownface?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Bronzer is.. not brownface...

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Putting makeup on your skin to make yourself look darker is brownface. Sit down and shut up, whitey.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Cultural appropriation of skin pigment. (Sarcasm)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
What? Seriously, what?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
How is JLaw an awful actress? From what I understand, she got a lot of praise for her acting in THG, reviews were extremely positive about her. I thought she was fabulous.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
http://youtu.be/iS4I_1y0OJM?t=14s

I seriously just cringed with embarrassment and my boyfriend, who is also in the room, busted up laughing. This is one of those situations where the anticipation and hype for the movie were so high (because the book was so popular, understandably as I am a huge fan of it) that no matter how bad it was people would still shit their pants over it. And I'm not even one of those hard-to-please fans who expect perfection -- I just really didn't like the movie and especially not her in it. But maybe since Catching Fire has a new director it'll be better. I hope so!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
diff anon

Seriously? People think that? And not just because of the whole skin-color issue? I thought she was great. That's how I accepted her as Katniss, because I think she played it well. She brought out Katniss's lack of social grace but still made her special. Hmm.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you know what a Brazilian is. It's a nationality, not an ethnicity. It's like saying "not obviously American" or "not obviously Canadian". There's a lot of different looks that make up Brazilian.
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[personal profile] chanterofelegies 2012-12-11 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to say this.