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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-10 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2169 ]


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maverickz3r0: trainer riding a flygon in a sandstorm (Default)

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2012-12-11 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Albeit I don't think I've ever heard any bi-identifying person say they weren't attracted to trans people. So pansexual seems to rely on a definition of bisexual that I've never heard any bi person use.

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I previously identified as bi, fell in love with a transman, and shifted over to pan, so there's at least one of us.
maverickz3r0: trainer riding a flygon in a sandstorm (Default)

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2012-12-11 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
But...your partner is a man, right? That actually sounds like people are trying to draw a line saying trans people are not actually men or women, they're some 'other' which people who identify as being attracted to just men and/or women can't be attracted to. That strikes me as more offensive, not less.

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Transman physically, ids as genderqueer. I see your point, though.

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
This. This idea that trans* are not male or female, and a straight girl can't be attracted to a trans man and still be straight? Just, no. Pansexuality has to include genders other than male and female, not just trans*. Otherwise you're just bi.

Although, realistically, if you're attracted to men and you're attracted to women, you're obviously not too picky about the genders you're attracted to, so why wouldn't you be pansexual?

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2012-12-11 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Many of us are both:

"The BRC uses bisexual as an umbrella term for people who recognize and honor their potential for sexual and emotional attraction to more than one gender (pansexual, fluid, omnisexual, queer, and all other free-identifiers). " - The Bisexual Resource Center

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2012-12-11 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, if you read the definitions of the major bisexual groups and activists, they're inclusive of more than two gender identities.

Re: -cough- Bisexuality -cough-

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly this. I know there are some bi people who are solely attracted to CIS-gendered people, but there are also people who are lesbian, gay, and bisexual who are only attracted to people who are CIS as well. And as a bi person with a lot of bi friends, I can say that the majority of bi people I know (and most major bi organizations) do NOT limit the definition to only include CIS people. I think a lot of the confusion is in the origin of the term and where it comes from, but the usage has since shifted to the bi simply meaning two kinds of attraction, and those two types of attraction in many (if not most) cases are not limited to CIS-gendered female and CIS-gendered male.