[ SECRET POST #2180 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2180 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Fraiser]


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[Homestuck]


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[Kili/The Hobbit]


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09. [SPOILERS for the Walking Dead]



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10. [SPOILERS for How I Met Your Mother]



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11. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Guardians]



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12. [WARNING for abuse]



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13. [WARNING for rape, noncon]

[American Horror Story Asylum]


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14. [WARNING for rape]

[MLP: FiM]


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15. [WARNING for rape]

[Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen]


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16. [WARNING for suicide]

[Doctor Who]


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17. [WARNING for rape]



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18. [WARNING for IRL murder/shootings]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Have none of you actually read or been told the story of Samson and Delilah?

Guys...? Seriously. It's a famous biblical story. Samson is blessed with great strength by God and the strength is in his hair. Delilah, the women he falls in love with, betrays him and shaves all his hair off, thus rendering him powerless.

Honestly...? Honestly? :\\\

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, sure, but the kitchen chair bit explicitly brings this into a modern framework where, yes, the Biblical story acts as a metaphor for rape.

Which frankly can be argued to apply to the original Biblical story, what with the long tradition in several cultures of warriors losing their power if they touched to "ZOMG SCARY" women-bits (especially when bleeding).

[(Anonymous)]

> Implying they didn't have kitchens back then
> Implying they didn't have chairs back then

[(Anonymous)]

In the story, Delilah ties Samson up twice in attempts to remove his strength, before the famous haircut.

[(Anonymous)]

Those are my thoughts exactly. Sure, it is a fucked up relationship, but it is such a biblical reference, not a rape allegory. At least, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the kitchen chair thing is clearly a biblical reference (the lyrics are rife with them), but OP didn't specifically point out that line-- only the comments did.

I think it can be both. The song in general is about an incredibly fucked up relationship that might have involved consent issues, idk, I never got that specific with it. But I don't think you have to deny the biblical references to think that's what the song is about.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I honestly didn't think that line was meant to be about a person literally being bound and assaulted.

But I could be wrong. Doesn't ruin the song for me though.

[visp]

It would seem the classics are a dying study - and not even because of less religion. Seriously, my high school age sister was a Jebus groupie all through middle school and early high school, went to all these stupid bible summer camps and everything, and just a while ago, visiting her, on TV, someone made a 30 pieces of silver reference, and she looked at me and said: "What's 30 pieces of silver mean?"

But back to original subject, I have to agree that there's no references to violation in the song. It's a messed up relationship, and she done him wrong, no doubt, but it doesn't seem to have any rapey metaphors or allusions that I can catch.

Also, Cohen's music is the sexiest music, ever.

[(Anonymous)]

It would seem the classics are a dying study - and not even because of less religion.

I've noticed this, and find this phenomenon both fascinating and frankly rather sad. A lot of really rabid Christians don't seem to have read the text they rave about (or at the very least, they ignore the Old Testament unless a specific passage somehow suits their needs*), and it's kind of amusing when Biblical allusions go over the heads of these sorts of people. And I know it's not just the Bible that this is happening with either; it's just the one I have the most experience/contact with.


*like say, when it comes to an argument over homosexuality

[(Anonymous)]

yes because everyone in the world has read/heard bible stories

everyone

no exceptions

[rmg]

obviously not but if you're going to be interpreting leonard cohen lyrics you should probably bone up on them since he uses so much of that imagery in his songs and writing