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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-24 09:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2183 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2183 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry for late, overslept.

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 067 secrets from Secret Submission Post #312.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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velvet_mace: (Default)

[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-12-25 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
No they shouldn't. No one should feel entitled to anything in fandom. Fandom doesn't owe you shit.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-25 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Well by that logic fandom shouldn't exist. Why bother reading fic? You don't owe it to authors to read it. Why bother posting fic? You don't owe it to readers to write it in the first place.

No one is saying you shouldn't post bad fic or anything like that, or that comms/sites should start setting up rules about what constitutes good fic and limiting posts as a result.

We're just saying people to be a little mature when they receive anything less than glowing praise. If you don't want to try improve your writing? Fine, ignore it - but don't start going so apeshit over someone trying to help you out that everyone else is too intimidated to do the same for writers who want concrit. It's gotten to the point where even if an author who loves concrit practically begs for it at the end of everything they write, readers probably won't leave any because of fandom's staunch anti-concrit culture.
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-12-25 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't read fic because I owe the writers to read it. Do you? Because if you do, that's insane.

I read fic because I enjoy reading fic.

I write fic because I enjoy writing fic, not because I feel like I owe my readers to write fic. This is how fandom works.

Some writers want critique and they can plainly state in the authors notes that they want critique. Easy! But if someone says nothing, just assuming that it's wanted is kind of ridiculously when it becomes blazingly clear that many writers don't. Some will only listen to critique from people whose opinions they trust. Some people treat their writing as "you get what you get and you don't throw a fit." Some have just given up on getting anything remotely useful in the way of critique. Some people are too emotionally attached to their creations to be able to take it.

Listen, I'm not saying you can't ever give concrit. I'm just saying, save it for the people who actually want it, and is it really that hard to ask?

if what you are saying is that you want people to give you concrit, you can ask on your LJ or in a community for someone to beta your fic.
Edited 2012-12-25 06:04 (UTC)
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-25 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Then fandom never should have opened itself up to criticism in the first place.