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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-26 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2185 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2185 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny how much fans hate on George Lucas and paint him as some kind of villain even though he's donated loads to charity.
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[personal profile] i_paint_the_sky 2012-12-27 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the complaints aren't about Lucas being a bad person, just a bad filmmaker. He seems like a lovely person, from what I've seen of him in interviews.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
You haven't seen most of the fandom then. A lot of them claim to hate George Lucas for "raping their childhood" and don't care what acts of compassion he's done.
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[personal profile] i_paint_the_sky 2012-12-27 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
It is true, any fandom that large is probably going to have more than its fair share of those type of fans. But I'm pretty sure they are not actually the majority, just the most vocal.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
One can only hope.
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[personal profile] darth_eldritch 2012-12-27 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
It is a vocal minority, but they really go off the deep end.

It's probably true of most fandoms, but the extreme Lucas bashers get a lot of attention.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-27 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
And what he did to Indiana Jones

http://youtu.be/P8imLWbEWx8
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2012-12-27 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
The stuff about his wife make me side-eye him a lot tbh
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[personal profile] citrinesunset 2012-12-27 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
What stuff about his wife? I'm not familiar with that.
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[personal profile] shellblade 2012-12-27 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I think [personal profile] gabzillaz might be referring to this
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[personal profile] citrinesunset 2012-12-27 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! (And thank you to the other poster, as well!)

I'll take a look.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna make movies - direct! You think this is mean? You think this is mean, you son of a bitch? You can't take this, you can't take the abuse you get on the Net? You don't like it, leave.

(Seriously, though, I'm sure he's a decent guy, but he can't make a movie, and that's basically the only criteria I have to judge him - can he make a movie or not? And he can't make a good movie, and so, you know, I'm going to criticize him as a filmmaker) (great guy, I'm sure, though)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
That quote only works if George Lucas was nice and never did anything about it. Which was the entire point of that speech you are referencing. Donating millions of dollars to charity with what he created and worked at is doing something with his life. Black and Lucas could buy 80,000 dollar BMWs together and Lucas would still have enough to hand out to charities. I think you need to watch that movie again, because complaining about working people who do things you don't like while you produce nothing is what Blake was complaining about in the first place in Glengarry Glen Ross.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-27 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck you. I'm entitled to judge his shitty movie as shit as soon as it makes theaters.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Quoting Glengarry Glen Ross was more a joke than a serious allusion. To be honest it's mostly just because "Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you, go home and play with your kids" is a line that is completely stuck in my mind and that was relevant.

The point is that, you know, he makes shitty movies, and all the charity he does isn't going to make his movies good, and it's not going to stop me from criticizing his movies and saying that they're shitty. He may be a decent person, he's certainly done a lot of good with his charity work, but that's not relevant to his chosen profession - filmmaker - and that's what I'm criticizing him on.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
"That watch costs more than you car. I made $970,000 last year. How much'd you make? You see pal, that's who I am, and you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here - close! You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you cocksucker? You can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit? You don't like it, leave. I can go out there tonight with the materials you've got and make myself $15,000. Tonight! In two hours! Can you? Can YOU? Go and do likewise. Get mad you son of a bitches. Money's out there. You pick it up, it's yours. You don't, I got no sympathy for you."

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
didn't he and whatshisname want to make indiana jones a statutory rapist because "it would be funny"?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds more like a rumor fandom came up with.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
seems legit to me, as far as rumors go

http://www.ramascreen.com/indiana-jones-is-a-child-molester

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
DA, but did you read the entire article? Spielberg and Lucas were talking about a background story and how taboo it would have been. They used the word strange to describe it. Messed up relationships are interesting to read or watch about if done right.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-28 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
he sure sounded super creepy as fuck talking about it, though

GL: Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it’s an outrageous idea, but it is interesting. Once she’s sixteen or seventeen it’s not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was madly in love with him and he …

bolding mine

that's such a teenager-like morbid fascination, and coming from a grown adult is skeevy as fuck, not to mention incredibly disrespectful of real life abuse victims

also, another site put it better than me:

http://blog.moviefone.com/2009/03/13/how-george-lucas-almost-made-indiana-jones-a-sex-offender/

Puts a whole new spin on Marion's "I was a child!" line, doesn't it?

seriously, the first time I watched the movie that line already rubbed me the wrong way, but seeing the transcript put it into horrifying fitting context

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2009/03/george-lucas-is-as-molesty-as-you-imagined

(Anonymous) 2012-12-27 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
hahahahaha fuck George Lucas