[ SECRET POST #2187 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2187 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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06. [SPOILERS for Once Upon a Time]



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07. [SPOILERS for amazing spiderman]



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08. [SPOILERS for Nu52 Stormwatch]



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09. [WARNING for rape, sexual assault, gore]

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12. [WARNING for child sexual abuse]



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14. [WARNING for violence, RL deaths]



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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 (not broken, but being reported as malicious?) - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Except there's barely any rape to begin with?

I mean it's a reality in the world of the series but we hardly ever see it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there's the implication that Sansa could have been if Sandor hadn't shown up, but that's really all that pops to mind.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

And Drogo and Dany at first, okay.

[(Anonymous)]

Um in the books Drogo/Dany weren't rapey. Only in the comics. In the books, Dany consented fully.

[(Anonymous)]

Except that she's underage, which means it was rape regardless. Different and more nuanced in the books, but still rape.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't watch the series because it's rapey, but underage is a modern definition. She's old enough to conceive, she's more than old enough to marry or be married off(read have sex with the dude) in many societies.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, but even if in the period it was okay, that doesn't mean it wasn't rape. And also, while she says yes, she clearly doesn't know that she can say know. So the whole thing is sketchy. Acceptable in the time period, certainly, but that doesn't mean a modern reader can't recognize it as rape.

[(Anonymous)]

visp, stop misspelling "say no"

[(Anonymous)]

Not Visp, and I didn't notice the typo.

[visp]

Ah, I get it now. I was scrolling through that and I was like "Huh? Is that some sort of pun?" and then said "say no" out loud a few times, trying to figure out what the joke was.

But nope, wasn't me. Sorry, other anon, but it would just seem that there is more than one person out there that has typo'd 'no' as 'know' and also feels that consummating a forced marriage to a 13-year-old counts as rape.

... not sure why you'd think anyone would take all the time to log out and post that, really.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, you don't need to log out to post something as anonymous.

[(Anonymous)]

Underage...as far as our perspective is concerned.

[visp]

The first time. And even then, since her abusive brother just told her that he'd beat the shit out of her if she didn't "please him" the 'yes' is still iffy (the implication that Drogo had made a point of at least being able to understand the word 'no' in her language before the wedding was a point for him, definitely)

After that, it's made clear that neither of them consider her further consent to be in any way relevant, and several times mentions her crying during sex and being relieved when he doesn't come to "visit." Also, she says that her opposition to slavery is mainly because her brother sold her to Drogo and she wouldn't wish that fate on anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

No.

WTF.

[fuchsiascreams]

Statutory rape is still rape, and she clearly did not want it. She went along with it because she thought she had to. The fact that she ended up physically enjoying it halfway through does not mean that it wasn't rape.

That being said, there is not a lot of rape in the series in general.

[(Anonymous)]

Excluding her age which made me uncomfortable, it was a very, very consensual scene. No vaginas were harmed.

[(Anonymous)]

Er, I mean in the books.

[visp]

Dany's relationship with her husband often falls under the category of "doesn't want to and definitely would say know if it was an option" so that's pretty rapey, and it's implied that Cersei's relationship with her husband has been like this. Oh, and Mirri Maz Duur.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't watch the series because of this type of thing, but don't you think it's pretty realistic? Women historically didn't have a lot of say in who they'd be married to in these types of societies.

[visp]

That's exactly the point. It's a realistic medieval world. There's lots of interesting and well-developed female characters, each with their own flaws and strengths, but the story is also showing that chivalry and those old-fashioned views had a serious darkside, especially when it came to women. Most the women aren't happy in their arranged marriages, and resent being sold off like party favors to solidify an alliance, and (spoiler) tend to kill their husbands because of it.

[(Anonymous)]

No it's not a realistic medieval world. Look at the article someone posted a link to it.

[(Anonymous)]

?

[fuchsiascreams]

I agree with this comment.