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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-08-25 05:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #232 ]


⌈ Secret Post #232 ⌋

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... guys, writing "this is not a secret" on your uh, secrets is probably not a good idea, you know?

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OP of #2

(Anonymous) 2007-08-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I really didn't mean for it to be that big of generalization. I was pissed off and I mainly wanted to say they should stop worrying about what other people ship and just have fun with their own.

And you're right, yaoi fans are far from oppressed. However I find that there is a huge difference between yaoi fanbrats and het fanbrats. Yaoi fanbrats mainly just squee over their OTP which yeah gets annoying but most of them don't go around insulting other pairngs unless they're CLAMP fans. The het fanbrats really do go around telling yaoi fans that their ships "normal" and "have a better chance at being canon".

Re: OP of #2

[identity profile] buddha-loves-me.livejournal.com 2007-08-25 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand. When I'm upset I make generalizations, too! I didn't mean for my comment to sound so snarky, either.

Another characterization of the yaori fanbrats is either bashing any and all female characters or just make them non-factors and ignore their exisistance.

I agree that, over all, a fanbrat of any kind is really obnoxious and would infruriate any sane fan. I totally understand where you're coming from.

Re: OP of #2

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2007-08-25 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That's your experience. I have had plenty of experience with yaoi fans who bashed other pairings or characters (as well as fans of such); both sides do it, and I don't think either side is worse than the other on this count. None of the fanbrats should be taken as the norm for either side.

[identity profile] evilbo.livejournal.com 2007-08-26 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I completely understand what you're saying here, but I actually have ran into people that were convinced their yaoi pairings were canon. Honest to god. Never say never.

Re: OP of #2

[identity profile] overlimits.livejournal.com 2007-08-26 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
:/ You say that you didn't mean to make such broad generalizations, and then you continue to do so. You're making it sound like yaoi fans can do no wrong and het fans are completely evil and disruptive.

You know what? I've had yaoi "fanbrats" tell me that by shipping a particular het pairing(not even loudly), I'm rejecting the entire fandom. Because they were that convinced that their yaoi pairing was (or, rather should be) canon.

However, that was a small group of people, and I don't hold that example up as the "real face" of yaoi fans. It was just an unpleasant experience.

You'll find that most people aren't so easily generalized. Most people aren't just "het fans" or "yaoi fans" or "yuri fans"; they like a little bit of everything.

tl;dr: I'm sorry you've had a bad experience, but don't group everyone together like that. That's not fair.