[ SECRET POST #2193 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2193 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[GunnerKrigg Court]


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02.
[The Avengers]


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03.
[French & Saunders]


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04.
[X-Men/Marvel Universe]


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05.
[Tron: Uprising]


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06.
[Kagaku Ninjatai Gatchaman]


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07.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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08.
[The X-Files/Fox Mulder]


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09.
[Homestuck]


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10.
[True Grit]


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11.
[Saya no Uta]


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12.
[The Silmarillion]


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13.
[Homestuck]


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14.
[Supernatural]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 015 secrets from Secret Submission Post #313.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

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[X-Men/Marvel Universe]

[(Anonymous)]

How does it make less sense than the original mutations?
None of this makes any sense in terms of physics or genetics. "Mutant" in this context just means people with random superpowers, that is all.

[(Anonymous)]

This. The secondary mutations and the primary mutations are equally nonsensical. I suppose you could look at it as thus being nonsensical squared, or you could look at it as complete lack of sense + complete lack of sense = complete lack of sense.

[oroburos69]

if you think of it as a disease that randomly changes the entirety of people's DNA every couple of years, it sort of works.

Either way, it's not any worse than the original concept of mutation.

[intrigueing]

It's really not any stupider than the original concept of mutations, which makes absolutely no damn sense either. Just because it came after the equally-nonsensical explanation for the original mutations doesn't magically make it more stupid.

Just roll with it and get some perspective on the story about a bunch of semi-insane people in ludicrous outfits and random superpowers who everyone hates and fears for moronic reasons. Because after you accept that the premise can only be explained by yelling IT JUST IS THAT WAY OKAY??? the stories and possibilities are pretty damn awesome a lot of the time.

[brooms]

i'm not a fan, either.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I gotta disagree with the other posters. I really dislike the undertone of scorn I hear whenever people are like, “well comic books are ridiculous anyway, so why bother asking for a logical or consistent framework?”

The logic, physics, and rules of a comic book universe may be totally silly compared to the real world, but that doesn't mean that they're not there. There is a rhyme and reason even if it's not real rhyme and reason, and good stories take advantage of how it works versus how it can't work. Every time the rules get thrown out the window, those stories make less sense and appear less often because the universe lacks the necessary structure to tell them. There is (or ought to be) a sense to it, an established set of guidelines for world behavior—and I don't think it's inappropriate to dislike something that makes no sense within established continuity.

Just because it's no more ridiculous than the original idea doesn't mean its A-OK. The original idea isn't in the same form as it was decades ago: it now lives within a complex structure that might not be real-world Earth Logic, but it does have its own rules which should not be violated without a decent explanation.

Besides, some fans like to think about how things work. Too bad the creators don't.

[(Anonymous)]

ITA with this sentiment, but the things is, it doesn't actually apply here. Secondary mutations are EXACTLY as ridiculous as original mutations. Not more. They don't break in-universe rules or cause in-universe inconsistencies. They don't, as you say, make no sense within established continuity.

At worst, they're the source of lazy writer asspulls and shitty confusing writing and uncertainty on the part of the readers who can't have the same confidence in understanding the implications of dangerous/difficult situations that comes from knowing the characters' power sets and the like. Which is not an in-universe problem, it's a writers-are-lazy-hacks problem.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Eh, I was mostly reacting to the "why bother having rules" sentiment I picked up (maybe erroneously) from the other posts because I see it a lot in general. The "comic books shouldn't have to make sense" thing gets under my skin, particularly given how people still have to struggle to get the medium taken seriously. And I dunno, it bothers me that this is the one fictional medium where the creators think it's totally acceptable to just make up whatever they want and not bother figuring out how to slot it smoothly into the universe, let alone explain it properly.

And, well, I don't think secondary mutations are a completely inappropriate example of that. Not the best one either, sure, but it's part of a trend.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate it too! It just seems *lazy* -- like the writers couldn't figure out anything else to do to keep the characters interesting (after fifty(?) years), so why not tack on another superpower?

I especially hate Emma's "diamond" thing. She's a badass mostly-reformed evil-queen telepath. Isn't that awesome enough?

[(Anonymous)]

In-universe logic aside it always bugged me too especially when the mutations were completely unrelated to each other like Emma's.

But now the fact it is the explanation for ridiculous mpreg fanfiction just makes me LOL at the idea. Creators couldn't have predicted that I'm sure.

[b_dangerous]

I enjoy it, so long as it becomes this "rare" event with the mutants. If everyone of them had it, I could see it being an issue-- but Emma's not the first to develop secondary powers, so it doesn't seem as out of place as many might suggest.