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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-04 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2194 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2194 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hobbit]


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[Good Omens / Girls Next Door]


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[The Hobbit, Thorin Oakenshield]


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07. [SPOILERS for Wreck-it Ralph]
http://www.abload.de/img/974137-king_candywrecfbk7z.png
[linked because porn, illustrated]


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08. [SPOILERS for The Office]



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09. [SPOILERS for Monsters, Inc.]



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10. [SPOILERS for The Hobbit]



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11. [WARNING for incest]



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12. [WARNING for suicide]

[One Direction]


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13. [WARNING for shotacon]



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14. [WARNING for sexual harassment?]



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15. [WARNING for depression, suicide]



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[personal profile] fscom 2013-01-04 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
13. [WARNING for shotacon]
http://i.imgur.com/b7PLD.png
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[personal profile] visp 2013-01-05 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of essays about women liking yaoi dubcon/noncon because of how it's a way to enjoy such things without having to deal with all the depressing real world rape culture issues that spring up if it's a woman in the "uke" role.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I know this is true for some women and it's a very valid thing to discuss, but I hate how this is always the assumption for any woman who likes yaoi. I like yaoi (and other forms of gay porn) because I'm attracted to men and I like to see people who I'm attracted to having sex with each other.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-01-05 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
This is also true. But since the OP said that she imagines herself as the young boy, I assume it's that way for her.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think this is that unusual. I'm not attracted to people that young irl, but I do enjoy reading underage fic that involves a significant age gap, and I do the same thing and place myself in the role of the younger person.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-01-05 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand in the sense that this feels like a different dynamic to a lot of people, "the mature woman teaching the innocent boy".

You like what you like,OP - just as long as you don't think it would actually be a-okay in real life.

Personally I think I could probably enjoy a story with a 15-16 year old in the setting, if written well. My usual problem with shota (and loli) is that in a lot of cases they look like they're 8 or less, and that just creeps me out in any dynamic. But I guess to some people that's exactly what they like.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, especially about the 15-16 part.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking of 15-16 yo setting, I got into a specific fandom when I was 17 and really liked this one pairing that involved a 15/16 yo female and a male of questionable but definitely older age. I recently revisited the fandom and still ship it. Now that I'm 23, I feel kind of like a creeper because of it. I've drawn fanart for DA of them and have had it reported and taken down for pedophilia/rape. It didn't even register in my mind until then that it was statutory rape.

Then I remember that when I was like 13 I liked the Older Rin/Sesshoumaru pairing....which I know realize was super squicky because it would practically be child grooming.

I noticed that in pairing like those, I tend to self insert as the younger person in fantasies like OP. Idk. I guess it seems less squicky that way.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-01-05 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I don't often self-insert fully, though I sometimes use little personal stuff when I write.I still ship teenagers sometimes (especially in some of my older ships). I do occasionally enjoy an age disparity pairing, but generally nowadays I prefer them to be young adults.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-06 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
When I was a teen, I was really into shota and older man/younger boy or girl ships, but now that I'm older it sort of gives me the creeps.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm female and always fantasize myself as the "bottom" male in non-con and BDSM roles. Had these fantasies for decades.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit, Misato's elbow looks like it could take out someone's eye.
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[personal profile] eaten_by_bears 2013-01-05 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Honey, it's a comic book. You're not hurting anyone. Enjoy your fantasy <3

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I wish to be the little girl.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Seeing yourself as the child is NOTHING to be ashamed of! It's much less creepy than seeing yourself as the adult.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-01-05 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm loving this thread because nobody's like OMG GROSS HOW DARE YOU but if the sex of the participants was swapped everyone would think you were gross

For what it's worth this is kind of my thing and has been since I started reading porn as a teenager, I just never got sick of reading it (the age gap thing, I don't have a preference for the gender/sex of either person in the pairing)

I also ship Misato/Shinji oops

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, IKR? Not only that, but if the sex of the participants was swapped and the OP was a guy, obviously we'd be calling for both of his heads (as it were) on a pike. But if the OP was still a girl, then anons would be harping on about how she's stupid/mentally ill/been brainwashed by teh evil patriarchal media/ttly has repressed sexual abuse memories, followed by backhanded remarks about how they're "concerned" for the OP.
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[personal profile] aquila_black 2013-01-05 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
I hope not. F!S on DW has actually been doing a rather good job of not jumping to conclusions like that.

I'm glad you guys brought this up, because it's still a big, hypocritical thing in fandom as a whole. But fandom is slowly expanding people's minds about what might be okay, when they think about it without the knee-jerk condemnation.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
People would also rage if OP was picturing herself as the adult woman in this scenario(considering how "child porn" seems to be the red button over here), so stop trying to create gender wank.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-01-05 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Not trying to create wank, I'm speaking from experience. A lot of my favorite ships are ones where there's an older man with a teenage girl and even AFTER EXPLICITLY STATING MY GENDER AND THE FACT THAT I IDENTIFY WITH THE YOUNGER PERSON IN THE SCENARIO I have had the most horrible shit assumed about me, said about me, etc.

Maybe instead of "wank" you meant "thoughtful discussion about gender roles as they relate to shipping/porn"

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
nnnnghh no no no must resist temptation

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 10:58 am (UTC)(link)
Waah, what about the menz. Gotcha.

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. Someone identifying more with the adult half of the equation doesn't mean that they would be involved with someone underage in real life or that they even want to be.

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
There's nothing to be ashamed of, OP. I read a lot of underage, and even a lot of incest underage, but they're just fantasies, a healthy part of one's sexuality :)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-06 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I used to have a HUGE shotacon fetish. I thought I was attracted to shotas, but then I realized I was confusing that with wanting to be the shota. I don't judge at all. God, my boyfriend knows about my embarrassing shotacon phase. So effing embarrassing. I'm so glad HE doesn't judge me.