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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-06 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2196 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2196 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-06 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't risk them. The first one I read, I didn't know what the tag meant, and, ah, I came out of the fic hyperventilating and in a full-blown panic attack. I, ah. Non-con, dub-con. But more the socially mandated loss of self-determination, and the chemically/biologically induced loss of self. I don't deal well with that.

I've no idea if the one I read is representative of the general trend. But basically whether the Omegaverse fic carries the extra warnings or not, I tend to consider the tag synonymous with non-con/dub-con, because it's too risky to do otherwise.

So, yes. I scroll past them. YKINMK. Um. Rather emphatically.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're right, the vast majority of a/b/o fics involve non and dub con overtones at the very least. It's infuriating that people don't tag them as such. Readers shouldn't have to be put in the position of being surprised by upsetting material like that; that's what tagging is supposed to be for!

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-07 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I've always assumed that Omegaverse includes at least dub-con.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Um. I'm the anon the anon you're replying to was replying to. And I'm not sure that sentence makes sense, but howandever ...

The fic I read didn't have any notification in summary or tags that it was going to involve dub-con or non-con. Not knowing what A/B/O was, that meant I got ... Um. Whammied. I mean ... I'm guessing you had an idea from fannish osmosis? But that's not exactly reliable, depending on what circles/fandoms someone's being moving in.

As I said, I've started assuming it involves them now. But to get to that, I had to read that first one. And that ... was not a pleasant surprise.

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-07 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no, I get it. I was answering to the anon who replied to you. I'm not into this kink but I assumed people don't always tag dub-con because it would be implied in the kink itself. Just a thought, I really don't know.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I ... would rather they made it explicit, just in case? Giving it a different name doesn't change the subject matter, after all.

Um. I mean, I get what you're saying, why they don't. I just wish they would, is all.

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-07 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, warning would be the right thing to do, I agree.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
Plus, this can be said about any warning that includes fandom shorthand or acronym. Someone who's never read fanfic before isn't necessarily going to know what 'dub-con' means; even on this site, discussions about various kinks often involve people chiming in about how they never knew what that one meant.

Until someone publishes that guide that was talked about a few days ago and makes it mandatory reading for newbies, there's still going to be triggering that's accidental on both sides.