[ SECRET POST #2199 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2199 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.
[Dragon Age 2]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Baby-sitters Club]


__________________________________________________



08.
[The Twelve Kingdoms]


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.
[Dangan Ronpa]


__________________________________________________



12.
[Homestuck]


__________________________________________________










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 023 secrets from Secret Submission Post #314.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So do you have a problem with the Death Star being blown up too?

[(Anonymous)]

If the Death Star was located in a civilian area with innocents around? Yes, I would have.

[(Anonymous)]

You honestly don't think there were any innocents on the Death Star? Engineers at the very least? Hell most of the Imperial officers seem all right, if cowed by Vader.

[(Anonymous)]

Imperial officers are still members of the military and therefore legitimate targets in a rebellion/war, regardless of their personal character. It's been a LONG time since I saw the Star Wars movies, but I don't recall seeing any non-military personnel on the Death Star. You can speculate all you want, but there is no conclusive evidence. We do, however, see civilians in Kirkwall.

[(Anonymous)]

We don't see civilians DIE from Anders blowing up the chantry, though. So, no conclusive evidence, as you said.

[(Anonymous)]

Keep in mind that my original comment was regarding Anders’ choice to trigger the explosion in a heavily populated area. The death count, or lack of, is completely irrelevant. Trying to turn this into a battle of numbers loses the core of the issue, which is Anders’ willingness to put noncombatants at risk.

If you want to go that route, however, we did see plenty of mages slaughtered because of what he did. That, in fact, was the intent: blow up the chantry so Meredith would invoke the Right of Annulment and turn the mages into martyrs. I would certainly consider the mages to be innocent, and their blood is on Anders' hands.

That being said, the fundamental difference, which I believe you understand deep down, is that the entire Death Star is a superweapon. Random Joe isn't going to get the grand tour with his family and pick up souvenirs from the gift shop. It's a highly classified space station where the only people aboard it are working for the military in some capacity. Kirkwall, on the other hand, if a city where people raise families, shop, work, live and pray. As players of the game, we know there are buildings right next to the Chantry. We know that Hightown is a heavily populated area where civilians live, work, and loiter. We've been there. We can physically see, with our eyes, other building catching on fire during the explosion. No, we don't see a piece of the chantry fall on top of Random Joe and crack his skull, but, given what we have witnessed in Hightown and during the cutscene, it is not an unreasonable assumption to make. You don't see any children slaughtered during the Right of Annulment, but given what we know about the Right and the Circle, it is entirely logical to claim that children were killed. Just as it is logical to claim civilians died during the explosion.

And finally, I point you to the sisters in the Chantry. You can argue that they weren’t “truly” innocent because they belong to an organization that plays a role in the oppression of others. But I’d like you to consider how many people in our world would die if turning a blind eye to injustice, or belonging to a group that directly or indirectly allows injustice to happen was a crime punishable by death.

[(Anonymous)]

That, in fact, was the intent: blow up the chantry so Meredith would invoke the Right of Annulment and turn the mages into martyrs.

WHOA. Totally different anon here who was just going through the thread out of interest, and now I feel like a total idiot for not having realized this. I have had so many discussions with my friends that basically turned into "Why would he blow up the Chantry, of all places, when he knew that it would just hurt his cause all the more?" But if his plan was to intentionally piss off Meredith so she would invoke the Right of Annulment even though the act was perpetrated by an apostate, thus forcing the rest of the world to see how unfair Templar control over the Circles is...

That is kind of genius and my mind is blown! I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't think it was the right thing to do (for all the reasons you've specified), but I have to admire Anders/Justice for coming up with such a twisted plan, hahaha! God I love this game :D