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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-12 02:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2202 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2202 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry, early today!

Also: I'm not going to officially warn for tongue-in-cheek "triggers" just to provide anyone with a fandom-specific in-joke when there are none in the secret.

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Re: Party in the Closet

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-01-13 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I hate that it's easier for me to come out to biphobic straight people than most L&G's.

/too depressed for caps :(
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Re: Party in the Closet

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-01-13 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
honest curiosity, why?

Re: Party in the Closet

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-01-13 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly because I've internalized a lot of the bs about bisexuality I read in otherwise open communities when I was first educating myself.

When straight people give me shit it's easier to ignore because I don't have any self-doubt that they're full of crap. But when gay people say things about my cowardice, attention-seeking ways, or my passing privilege it's harder to dismiss. And I definitely feel like I shouldn't argue anything in "their space". Part of me still feels like I'm a faker appropriating someone's identity or that maybe they're right and I'll suddenly realize I've actually been a lesbian in denial the whole time?

So I just have this insecurity that if I say I am bi "real" gay people will think less of me.

IDK how well I'm explaining this, ugh.

Re: Party in the Closet

(Anonymous) 2013-01-13 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
"Part of me feels like I'm a faker appropriating someone's identity"

Anon from below: I HAVE THIS FEELING ALL THE TIME

One time I apologized in private to a bisexual friend whose lesbian porn I was editing because I was enjoying it but I wasn't sure if I was queer enough for that to be non-exploitative

Which.

She found that amusing BECAUSE ENJOYING LESBIAN PORN AS A WOMAN IS INHERENTLY A LITTLE BIT GAY SO THERE'S NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE OR FEEL EXPLOITATIVE.
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Re: Party in the Closet

[personal profile] yeahscience 2013-01-13 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
I actually completely understand this. I've actually told people in the past I'm a lesbian, even though I'm not, just so I won't have to face that. Which I know is cowardly and awful. :(
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Re: Party in the Closet

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-01-14 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think I understand - not completely, since I'm straight, but you're not explaining yourself badly imo. And it's like that fallacy that some people think about how "women can't be sexist" or whatever; people can be bigoted even if they're part of (or related to) the group they're bigoted against.

I'm really sorry you've had those experiences. fwiw, learning about biphobia kind of made me scratch my head - if you can accept that people are attracted to the same gender, why not accept that they could be attracted to either? But of course humans are humans, so of course, it exists...

Anyway, *hugs* good luck to you :)

Re: Party in the Closet

(Anonymous) 2013-01-13 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
<3 I'm sorry.

It's the feeling of not being 'queer enough' yeah? Like you'll be judged for having 'options'.

If it's another thing also feel free to share <3

Re: Party in the Closet

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-01-13 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. This. TY.
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Re: Party in the Closet

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-01-13 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
You and me both, hon. I'm pansexual, married to a male-bodied genderqueer (as he identifies), and I cannot count the amount of shit that I get for "passing privilege", nevermind the "well you're just barsexual" crap, even though I've had more relationships with women than men. With one exception (and even he said that if he cared enough he probably would ID as genderqueer but he didn't want to deal with the *phobia) everyone I have been with has been cis female, trans female, or genderqueer. Yet... passing privilege. And thus I need to STFU, I'm not queer enough, I don't belong. I am attracted to women, I just don't care about body. (And there's a good bit of transphobia involved there too.)

It is seriously fucked up that I am more comfortable around straight people because I have literally had better luck explaining to them. Even the ones that are biphobic. I have certainly dealt with some awful crap from straight people but it has been pretty standard religious crap and not ~queerer than though.