[ SECRET POST #2209 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2208 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 121 secrets from Secret Submission Post #316.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[making_excuses]

To the end of time and back, just ask The Daleks or The Doctor!

[velvet_mace]

LOL. No to be real, it's one of the (apparently many) reasons I dislike elves. They the most judgy, judgy things. Like Gloin said at the Council of Elrond after hearing they let Gollum out to climb trees -- "WTF guys, you treated us like more shit than gollum?" I'm paraphrasing.

[making_excuses]

Spoilers dude*! But yeah I understand where you are coming from. It makes Legolas and Gimli's friendship even more awesome though?**


*I'm just messing with you, I might not have read The Hobbit yet, but there is not a lot of spoilers left to spoil me with. On second thought, is that from the movie? I watched the movie, I can't remember that...

**I can only talk about the movies, because I read the LoTR books almost exactly 10 years ago, so I can't remember a lot.

[velvet_mace]

Yeah, I can't spoiler you for what they are going to do in the next Hobbit films because I haven't seen that yet. Who knows, maybe Peter Jackson will have the Thranduil wining and dining the dwarves and giving them long relaxing foot rubs. (Wouldn't that annoy the purists!) And in fact, until I watch otherwise, that will be my new headcanon.

I think they glossed over that in the movie version of LOTRs, so it maybe only book canon. It does point out that elves aren't always complete dicks. Apparently they can be merciful when it comes to forwarding the plot. But really, they are remarkably inconsistent for beings that pride themselves on their perfection and wisdom.

[darth_eldritch]

Who knows, maybe Peter Jackson will have the Thranduil wining and dining the dwarves and giving them long relaxing foot rubs.

LOL, this is awesome!

Anything to have more Thranduil

[greenvelvetcake]

Lee Pace

giving Thorin long relaxing foot rubs

yes this pleases me

[darth_eldritch]

Sweet!

[(Anonymous)]

I've actually always kinda liked that about Tolkien's Elves, that they have this glaring flaw that prevents them from being all perfect and angelic. Doesnt' stop me from wanting to smack some elven heads sometimes, but still.

[velvet_mace]

Tolkein elves have tons of flaws. But they have awesome PR and they get away with a lot simply because of the fan-boy effect.

Elves are vain, rude, arrogant, quick to appreciate their own efforts, but poor to acknowlege them in others, utterly in love with their own past, but uninterested in any history besides their own. In fact they admit to being bored and uninterested in what's going on with people other than elves, and yet they absolutely expect that others should care about their great doings. They are the ultimate "I've got mine, screw you" types. They walk freely in other peoples countries, but don't allow others to freely walk in theirs. They have enormous powers that they keep for themselves. Peter Jackson actually niced them up a bit by getting rid of their teasing and snobbery actually having them help in Helms Deep. They are Tolkien BNFS.

[othellia]

They are Tolkien BNFS.

OMG THAT IS A WONDERFUL DESCRIPTION.

[(Anonymous)]

Button Nose Fetish Syndrome?

[making_excuses]

Aww, damn you aren't psychic?

I will totally be disappointed if that doesn't happen in the Hobbit movies now.

Yeah probably. I really need to reread The Lord of The rings, it is almost half a life since I read it last, and I only remember how slow I found the book, it might have been because I was too young?

[velvet_mace]

The books are slow in places. Particularly that place. I just got done reading the Counsel of Elrond, and my god does everyone suck at story telling. There is a story there (several in fact), but it's said in the most long-winded, ponderous, and vague way possible. It took me 4 days to read through it to my daughter. By comparison, we've raced through the chapters before and afterwards.

Among the stories is the one where apparently the Elves were taking Gollum out for walkies in the woods and he climbed up a tree and wouldn't come down. They apparently didn't want to climb up and get him because, fuck that, they are elves, so they sat down, feasting and shitting about, and waited for him to get hungry. But before that could happen the Orcs show up. The elves kind of forgot what they were doing and chased the orcs off their land (quite righteously I imagine). With that completed they realized "Oh hey, yeah, we were supposed to be guarding Gollum, weren't we?" They go back, but by then, Gollum was long gone. Oooops.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Gollum has a magic gift for making people feel so sorry for him they let their guard down.

[greenvelvetcake]

To be fair, he is one of the most pitiful characters in fiction. Skin and bone, driven to madness by the Ring - it doesn't change the fact that he's a murderer, but it's not hard to see how it would get people's guards down.

[(Anonymous)]

Plus, from TTT or ROTK, Gollum says something that seems to imply that it actually hurt him to be touched by the Elves (or even looked at). There's the scene with the Elven rope that burns him, and his complaints about their "bright eyes". So they probably thought it was a kindness to let him be.

[(Anonymous)]

Dat approximate quote. <3 You are awesome.