[ SECRET POST #2209 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2208 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 121 secrets from Secret Submission Post #316.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I really like Shiemi too and also think she's more complex than what the OP of secret seems to think :D

[fuchsiascreams]

You guys seem to have completely missed the fact that OP is making a social commentary, here. That specific character is just an example of what s/he hates about those types of characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for the clarification, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know the series, but these responses seem to indicate that this character isn't a good example of the archetype OP has a problem with.

[herongale]

No, I get that, and I respect the point-- somewhat. But I just happen to feel that Shiemi happens to be a poor example of this particular type of character, because she isn't really all that selfless and she does act out in ways that are obviously bratty and selfish (honestly, I can't think of any other female character in anime who has been shown, more a few times even, out-and-out yelling at her mom, and not for any particularly good reasons-- while still being billed as one of the "good guy" characters).

And the thing about her big boobs.. yeah, she has them, but most of the guys don't even really notice or pay them any particular mind. There are only really two guys who do. And it's never shown to be an aspect of her characterization so much as the guy's reactions to her boobs are indictments of theirs.

She has a really interesting story arc too, one that I don't want to get into details about since you probably don't care about it and I've probably already rambled on too much already. :) But mainly I just think that the secret maker just obviously hasn't delved too much into this character enough to make these kinds of judgments, since canon itself pretty well contradicts most of the points she (or he) is making.

I think it's also possible sometimes for people to be too keen on expecting "strong female characters" to be kickass and tomboyish and not sweet in order to deserve the title of "strong." But I judge characters based on their complexity and the realism of their presentation/interactions with others, and Shiemi despite her shyness and cuteness is a very well realized character with a lot of depth. I like her a lot because I admire the complexity with which she was written. She's definitely not the MOST COMPLEX FEMALE CHARACTER I'VE EVER SEEN or anything, but in her genre of manga she's a standout character and is... just basically a lot more than how the secret OP is portraying her here.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's also possible sometimes for people to be too keen on expecting "strong female characters" to be kickass and tomboyish and not sweet in order to deserve the title of "strong."

Couldn't agree more. A "strong" character has nothing to do with the amount of ass they can kick.