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⌈ Secret Post #2216 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This movie gets so much hate, I don't get it. I know it has its issues, but the movie was something you rarely see-a mother/daughter story. Merida had to be a 'brat', or else the ending would have meant nothing. She was a teenage girl who balked at getting married so young to a stranger, and went about it the wrong way. She's coming into her own and stumbles. The journey makes her realize her mother did love her, and her mother learned to let go a little. (And hey, the guys didn't want to marry a stranger either. But for some reason no one ever really complains about that?)

Personally I find it weird that the kingdom is so young and it already has 'customs'. If there's only been one king and queen then how can it be 'customary?' :X

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

Yeah seriously, it was a good movie. I was pretty impressed that Merida and her mom solved their problems by talking them out. I feel like that's such a novelty in movies.

It wasn't quite what I was expecting going into the theaters, the trailers were kind of prepping us for some epic adventure tale and we got more of a family drama instead, so I could see why some people might be a little disappointed. Different expectations and all. But the movie was still really good, it was heartfelt, timeless and genuinely funny. My only criticism is that I wish they expanded on the Mor'du story.

[killaurey]

It wasn't quite what I was expecting going into the theaters, the trailers were kind of prepping us for some epic adventure tale and we got more of a family drama instead, so I could see why some people might be a little disappointed. Different expectations and all.

Hahaha, yeah. This is why I left the theater disappointed. Not because I didn't like the mom-daughter bonding! Because I did! ... but because the trailers had made me think I was getting an Epic Adventure and that really wasn't anything like the movie was about at all.

???

[anonymouslyyours]

I don't know if this is a reference that whooshed over my head or is some glitch only happening to me but the word 'problems' in your second sentence is a link to a page about background checks?

Re: ???

[(Anonymous)]

It's a glitch; check your extensions, sometimes you'll get one that sneaks on with a name like "buy source" or whatever, and uninstall it. Other times it's just a glitch.

Re: ???

[anonymouslyyours]

Thanks!

Re: ???

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

It wasn't me. Though I've noticed sometimes my browser chooses to link certain words in news articles... so maybe that's what is going on?

[fauxkaren]

Yeah, the movie wasn't perfect and I think that it had a weird tonal dissonance in places (like the bits with the witch and with the three brothers kinda jarred with the feel of the rest of the movie, imo).

But I really love and appreciate this movie for being a mother-daughter story that showed both sides.

[morieris]

I get the hate for the film (mainly because people want to hail it as revolutionary for it's story [it isn't] instead of the people involved [Well, on case of another princess story, it isn't creative, but a mother/daughter show is])

The only time I found she was acting...incredibly selfish was watching Elinor endure the cake and totally ignoring her pain.

[sparklywalls]

As others have said, the trailers were somewhat misleading I guess BUT I still mostly agree with you. Yeah it might not be what we were expecting but it wasn't terrible. I don't think I'd say it was my favourite Pixar film by any stretch but I did enjoy the mother/daughter relationship being a main focus. I mostly get on with my mum but we had our moments and I'm not ashamed to say the last part of the film had me in tears so bad that I couldn't move from my seat for a few minutes after it ended and my finance was becoming quite worried! Might have something to do with the fact I live in a different city to my mother now so can't see her easily anymore and maybe I was missing her a bit. Basically, it made me want to hug my mum. *Shrug* Guess the film just tapped into a part of me that had an effect on me and I like it when films can do that. Though Pixar has always produced films that manipulate you emotionally a bit! Not that it is entirely a bad thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I find it weird that the kingdom is so young and it already has 'customs'. If there's only been one king and queen then how can it be 'customary?' :X

That bugged me, but I read a couple of hypothesis that kind of explained it in my headcanon.

1. That that's why there are only four families groups rather then more

2. It's bragging hyperbole

3. It is an ancient custom from the people before the four families shown (such as the people that Mor'du came from), and the four families kind of adopted it.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, presumably their clans didn't just spring from the ground fully-formed. They're probably the descendants who continue to keep the "old ways".

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, it's probably more that the custom is from the country/land itself, and the kingdom is actually quite small. Especially since that was the situation in Great Britain at the time--lots of little kingdoms as opposed to one big one.

So the kingdom itself is young, but everyone's been raised in a land where those are the customs.

[oftheark]

but the movie was something you rarely see-a mother/daughter story

There are actually a whole lot of movies about mothers and daughters. Maybe not Disney movies, because most of them are based on medievalish fairytales and mothers were either absent or evil, but mainstream movies? Lots. They're generally called chick flicks.

[(Anonymous)]

I can think of a lot of movies with mother-daughter issues as an important part of the storyline that aren't chick flicks - The Tenth Kingdom, Thirteen, White Oleander.

[oftheark]

All the ones I could think of off the top of my head were chick flicks. But I'm more than happy to agree they're cross-genre.

OT

[(Anonymous)]

Every time I see your username out of the corner of my eye I flip out a little because holy fuck ToTheArk is on F!S. Then I'm like "Oh yeah."

Re: OT

[oftheark]

Aha. Sorry? You're the second person who's mentioned that and I don't actually know what/who ToTheArk is. >.>

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[tyger66]

Marble Hornets. Youtube video series. Slenderman. Terrifying. my words fail me after that.

THANKS RANDOM ANON FOR REMINDING ME THAT EXISTED. NOW I WILL HAVE NIGHTMARES.

(for real, it's terrifying, watch it.)

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[(Anonymous)]

TTA is this psychotic figure from the Slenderman series Marble Hornets, who makes these really weird disjointed coded video responses that give a lot of people nightmares. Recently he (? seriously, we don't even know that yet and we're three years in) actually appeared in a video wearing a creepy-ass mask-and-hoodie combination. At one point he uses the threat "This will be your last birthday" to a main character.

[iggy]

Name them? As in movies, where the main plot is the mother/daughter narrative.

I see people act like there are a bunch all of the time, but they can never really back it up.

There aren't many prominent mother/daughter narratives, even in chick flicks.

[oftheark]

Terms of Endearment
Steel Magnolias
In Her Shoes
The Joy Luck Club
Mermaids
Anywhere But Here
Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood
Stepmom
Mirrormask
Mama Mia
Heartbreakers

On a lesser scale but still important plot threads:
Practical Magic
My Big Fat Greek Wedding
The Piano
The Family Stone
Sweet Home Alabama
The Help
Ever After
Drop Dead Gorgeous

You want horror?
Carrie
Mommie Dearest
Dolores Claiborne
Heavenly Creatures
The freaking Exorcist

Just off the top of my head, to go along with Tenth Kingdom, White Oleander and Thirteen someone else mentioned. So yeah; lots.

[iggy]

Most of those don't focus on the mother/daughter dynamic to the level that Brave does? I'll give you a couple, but yeah. I don't really walk away from Mirrormask, Joy Luck Club, Divine Secrets, etc. going "I watched a mother/daughter flick." Brave is also novel in doing it without AT ALL bringing in a romantic plot thread for the younger protagonist, which isn't the case in many of those films.

Like the movie or or not, Brave is still pretty novel and it is an important film. Even if all of those listed films were as focused on that plot as Brave, that's still maybe a dozen out of hundreds and hundreds of chick flicks and thousands more films period. And how many of those films focus on a teenage daughter and her mother? The list grows even smaller. How many of those films were seen by a lot of people and continue to be watched? Even smaller. Brave is pretty darn unique in the grand scheme of things.

Try to make a father/son list, it will probably be ten times longer, no exaggeration.

[oftheark]

No offense, but if you didn't come away from The Joy Luck Club which is ONLY about eight women and their relationships with their mothers, seriously, there is no other plot here thinking you'd watched a movie about mothers and daughters then you're kind of doing this whole movie watching thing very wrong. Same goes for Divine Secrets.

Honestly, I haven't even seen Brave and I'm not actually knocking it. All I said was that there were a lot of other movies that focussed on mother-daughter relationships and that Brave really isn't breaking any new ground with that as its focus. Every movie I mentioned does have significant mother-daughter threads and the main list the mother-daughter relationship is the driving force of the whole movie (save In Her Shoes, sorry; it's grandmother-granddaughter), despite you thinking they're not on par with Brave, or it's specific plot, lack of romance and any other qualifiers you want to toss out. I made my point, ad nauseum.

[(Anonymous)]

They were four clans prior to the kingdom. Only recently did they go, "Fuck it, Fergus, you're king now." The customs just. Carried over.