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⌈ Secret Post #2216 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Activist Communities

[(Anonymous)]

Holy crap. I have never seen any of this o____o FWIW, I'm FTM and I understand that none of that is okay, and none of the FTM guys I've been around have acted like this. Not all of us guys (cis or trans!) fall into the horrible traps of "acceptable masculine behavior" Western culture shoves down our throats :(

I'm sorry you've had such a gross experience with them :c That's just appalling behavior, no matter who it's from.

Re: Activist Communities

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of it isn't immediately obvious, but more patterns of behavior that you start to notice. Like, one person says something really sexist and you can excuse it as 'that person is sexist'. But after the hundredth person, it becomes a pattern. And after the thousandth you notice it even in places you didn't before. It sort of crept up on me over a few years, until I was re-reading some old favorites by the "elder wisemen" of various ftm communities and saw all of the things I'd missed.

There's definitely awesome trans* people out there, lots of them! But the movement has some serious issues, too.

Re: Activist Communities

[(Anonymous)]

Not that I'm excusing their behavior, but some of it might be reactionary to the misogynistic culture - many FTM guys aren't taken seriously because they're female, and I know the "ubermasculine" thing used to be the only thing people would take as acceptable behavior for a trans guy, because if you were just going to be "effeminate" anyway, then why not just be a girl? That sort of thing. I get told a lot that I can do X, Y, Z, "and still be a girl!" and I can see where the reactionary (and childish) comments of "but girls are _____!" come from. Our culture tends to define gender in actions and expressions, and when you're coming into your own as a trans person, it can be hard not to fall into using "But I don't do that!" as a way to assert that you're not that gender. I used to be that way, and I know now that my comments weren't okay, but they were also coming from a place of anger and frustration, and I needed to grow up a bit to recognize how to better word myself to assert my identity without attacking anybody else.

Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a discussion. It's just rather near and dear to my heart, and I'm a little over-protective. It hurts knowing that there's all this in-fighting within and between minority groups :c

Re: Activist Communities

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yeah, a lot of it is definitely a reaction to our culture, and a lot is insecurity, too. Unfortunately, especially for newly-transitioning guys, its easy to confuse acting masculine with dudebro douchebag behavior, because 'masculinity' is actually a lot more subtle than 'drink beer, watch football, hate women'. But this sort of thing can make trans* spaces seem like very unsafe and unwelcoming places to people who aren't okay with that kind of posturing. (And there are lots of reasons beyond just 'I don't like sexism', like not wanting to have surgery, not wanting to transition, being a trans person without body dysphoria, etc.)

It's cool! Its a discussion that needs to be had, after all! :D