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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-02 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2223 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-03 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
This is how I've felt about Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon since I was a kid. There were so many things that I didn't touch from a combination of not liking the writing and not being able to stand the deformed scribbles.

Everything from Rugrats to Ed, Edd, n Eddy seemed so ugly! And I wanted to like cartoons, dammit. I was eight and normal kids liked cartoons. But I was so jealous of old cartoons (the animated Batman, Thundercats, even the little I saw of the Ninja Turtles) and cartoons from other countries (Russia, Australia, and Mexico FTW) that didn't seem so cheap and crappy. Captain Planet wasn't always beautifully animated, but at least their people looked like people and the main source of humor wasn't toilet jokes. I'd go to garage sales and see lunchboxes with the old My Little Pony, or Biker Mice from Mars, or whatever, and think "why can't I find anything drawn like that?" And I'd feel bad because I wanted to like the things that were shiny and on tv now, and mostly I just didn't.

Now that I'm an adult, it's not that hard to find artists who are obsessed with the "brilliant animation style" of the cartoons that were on when they/I were little. But it boggles my mind that anyone would aspire to draw in the style of Ren and Stimpy. I mean, I get that there's a progression from, say, The Simpsons to South Park to Family Guy and beyond. It's just so alien to anything I found watchable that a(n irrational) part of me is amazed that it resonated with anybody.

I worry this post is coming across as judgmental, when I only mean it as thoroughly subjective - what all of that looked like through my eyes. I'm not saying there weren't good things about those shows. They just always rubbed me the wrong way. For ... way too many reasons, but the art was an important factor.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-03 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
*headtilt* Old cartoons like BTAS, and you're an adult? Rugrats actually predates BTAS. I'll give you TMNT, as it was definitely 80s, but...

I don't like the Ren & Stimpy's art style, but it's what's popular, so... whatever. I just won't watch the show.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-03 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I am. Time flies, right? Anyway, I don't know Batman well enough to say for sure. My mind classified it with the older toys. There were animated versions of the cartoon in the 60s and 70s, before the one that they called BTAS in the 90s, so I'm guessing that's where I got it.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2013-02-04 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, flat-out, I hate Ren and Stimpy.

But from an animation standpoint, they were doing some seriously bold stuff. Not just, y'know, because they had way-too-raunchy toilet humor. They didn't have set character models like most shows, they weren't trying to have that on-model look that defines a lot of animation. Everything would be drawn new and over-the-top each time. They would throw in those random gross-out-close-ups, and they'd be, y'know, these really well-rendered paintings, for pity's sake.

I really do miss seeing at least a few good action cartoons where people were drawn like people, say, like Gargoyles or even DCAU (though that was more stylized). But I have to applaud shows like Chowder or Flapjack where they went out of their way to use any sort of medium they could find, just to see if they could--puppets, painting, food...whatever. It's fascinating to see what they do.