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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-04 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2225 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not familiar with Kim and co. other than watching random episodes. What's the big secret?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Generally speaking if you admit to watching these or partaking in any non-fannish celebrity worship, actually, in fannish spaces, the response usually heavily implies that you're a shallow ONTD idiot.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
any non-fannish celebrity worship

Huh, but at least KK is businesswoman worshipped for things she actually does rather than a character she plays. When you put it that way, I'll take a Kardashian fan over a Cumberpatch stan any day.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
The Kardashian sisters are generally derided because they've made a career out of being shallow rich bitches who only care about shopping and dating and being pretty; their chief claim to fame is that their stepdad was an Olympian, their family was already wealthy, and the "prettiest" one used to hang out with Paris Hilton and had a sex tape.

They aren't good role models, generally-speaking, and OP is probably embarrassed to say one of them is an inspiration in any capacity.

(Personally I respect the shit out of their business savvy. They've made a LOT of money for basically just existing.)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed on your last point, their business acumen and straight-up cunning is remarkable.

Don't forget that Robert Kardashian Sr was one of OJ Simpson's lawyers, though.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-02-05 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
But does it really have anything to do with them having 'business savvy' and mostly just to do with the American tv-watching public having the most execrable taste imaginable? Unless i'm missing something, all they do is that reality show? That's not business savvy - that's friggin' prime-time, sadly, and hell - people who catch possums and snakes have that.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
They own their boutique D-A-S-H and have released a number of clothing lines and at least four (maybe five?) perfumes. Oh, and they have a cosmetics line now.

A good lot of the show is actually about their business as well as their personal lives.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-02-05 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
But would any of those things be successful without the show? And are they successful in reality, or will we all find out ten years later they were slowly going bankrupt from mismanagement and stuff?

I dunno. Seems like lots of people have a perfume, or a clothing line - like lots of people 'sing' and put out an album. Seems more like just trying to stay 'in the public eye' and have more stuff to flog in the hopes of making money than having any real special business talent.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, they're not exactly Andrew Carnegie, I'll admit that. But the fact is that they've managed to sell their brand, whether it's physical or just the idea of Kardashians, for YEARS now, and people keep buying it. There are not many reality stars with that kind of lasting power, and the Kardashians remain because their mom Kris Jenner is promoting the hell out of them and working her ass off to keep them famous and in the public eye. If anything, she's the Andrew Carnegie, Kim's the face.

I personally just view it as a Great American Materialist Tale? They started out with Bruce's Olympian fame and Kim's settlement from the sex tape thing, minor B/C-list edges of fame, and now even people who don't care about this kind of thing know their names.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-02-05 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's so amazingly creepy. I've caught bits of the show in late-night channel-scroll mode, and the mom seems to have no limit to what she'll do to push her kids into the public eye. So icky.
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[personal profile] shinyhappypanic 2013-02-05 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
DASH definitely existed before the show, but I don't know about the rest.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-02-05 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
And see, that must be a super-specific 'location' or 'crowd' thing, 'cause i've never heard of 'DASH' before.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
My understanding is that there are only like...3 stores? [Also 'boutigue' generally means that it's not a huge chain, and more of a select small, upper scale type store - so the fact there are three is actually fairly impressive, and means their store has to be making some pretty good business.]
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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-02-05 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
What is happening with the brightness/contrast setting in this awful secret?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, you're one of those people who are responsible for the Kardashians. I was wondering who actually watches that shit.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, whatever gets you through the day, OP. And really, for all the hate they get, they are pretty damn business savvy which is something to be respected.
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[personal profile] shinyhappypanic 2013-02-05 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
You know what? I don't give a quarter of a shit what anyone thinks about me watching my fuckdamn Kardashians. The people who rip on the show are usually people who have seen at most two random episodes and have no idea how hilarious Lord Disick the troll king is, how addictingly creepy/annoying Kris is, how unintentionally funny Kim is, etc...their loss! Why be ashamed?

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, this is a good comment. I think you've inspired me to be less flaily because you're right, my fuckdamn Kardashians are fun to watch.

Possibly the best episode ever was the one where Kourtney is all "Oh! I want to try natural underwater birth for this kid, so let's watch some stranger's natural underwater birth!" and they do, and Khloe basically turns green and Kourtney is just like NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. (Especially because the lady giving birth wound up having an orgasm in the process. The Ks looked like they were going to shit themselves.)

SA

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
Shit, and the one where Khloe is CONVINCED Scott is secretly a budding serial killer. I. died.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-06 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no. I've watched my fair share of trashy reality TV, including many, many hours of the various Kardashian shows. (Blame the years of college with roommates and a LOT of spare time on my hands.)

The shows aren't "reality" TV. They don't even pretend to be anymore. They're scripted dramas with every episode having a plot, with a beginning, middle, and end. Moreover, the Kardashians are nothing more than fame-hungry attention whores who wouldn't know a moral if it slapped them in the face. They're famous for doing NOTHING. NOTHING, except gab around and bitch and create idiotic drama and spend obscene amounts of money and put obscene amounts of makeup on their faces.

They're the most deplorable kind of celebrity out there, and I make that statement having consumed a LOT of hours of their so-called "tv." Fortunately I've grown up and found better uses for my time. Wish I could say the same for them.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2013-02-05 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If it makes you feel better: I also have an anxiety disorder (GAD) that I've been on disability for since 2010, and the best piece of advice I've ever been given was by my family doctor the first time I got diagnosed, at sixteen. She told me that I shouldn't waste energy worrying about things that I can't control, because there's nothing I can do about it. Now, whenever I start worrying about something, I ask myself whether or not what I'm worrying about is under my control (i.e. getting a bad grade on a test vs. whether or not my dad is going to die. Obviously I can study for a test to improve my mark, but I can't force my dad to stop smoking, or magically discern whether or not he's going to have a stroke), and I try to stop myself from worrying about the things that I have no influence over. It's hard and it's imperfect, but it helps sometimes.

Anyway, tl;dr @ self, hope this helps.
Edited 2013-02-05 19:39 (UTC)