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⌈ Secret Post #2230 ⌋

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Comments

[diet_poison]

But as I can see from your final sentence, this is basically just childfree garbage and a general hate of parents and parenting. Be free then, I don't care. parents and parenting. Be free then, I don't care.

They had me at "bringing a child into this world, no matter how well you think you can care for them and make their life perfect, is a harmful act. Not understanding this is naive and grossly detrimental". Being childfree is one thing, judging others for wanting to have children makes them no better than the people who call them "selfish" for not wanting any.

(Seriously, can't everyone just grow up about this topic? Some people have kids. Some don't. IT'S OKAY.)

[dreemyweird]

I know it must be OK, but I have weird feelings about it.

Like, one knows that there's some risk of their child being unhappy, and they decide to take this risk, and this is where my chain of reasoning goes awry, because they take a risk for their child? Who's going to be an actual living person and experience all the consequences of that choice?

That being said, I most certainly do not support the idea of stopping all the reproduction. Apart from being totalitarian, it is plainly horrifying. The world would become such a mess.

[(Anonymous)]

There's also a chance that their child might grow up to have a fantastic life and be happy all their days, though. Wtf is this "EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE AWFUL AND LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT THE WORST WILL OCCUR" attitude, idgi. So maybe you had a shit life. That doesn't mean that everyone has or will, and it doesn't mean that your ENTIRE life will be that way. My gosh. Occasionally something positive happens in the world, you know. I do want to say that my dad has the exact attitude that you do, bar "having kids is bad", and it made the rest of us miserable because he was ALWAYS determined to see the bad side of life and ignore the good, which, amazingly enough, actually turned out to exist. It does no one any good to assume that everything is terrible. Take precautions to guard against bad stuff? Expect that SOME bad stuff will happen? Sure, not doing that is stupid. Expecting that ALL THE BAD STUFF will happen, and trying to convince everyone else that it's dumb to think otherwise? That's ridiculous.

[dreemyweird]

But I didn't say anything like that? I was talking about a risk not about a certainty.

...and I'm trying to convince no one

...I feel like you confused the threads (maybe you wanted to reply to this anon above?)

Plus it's really ridiculous that your dad has this kind of attitude. Because he is your dad. He's doin' childfree ideology wrong.

[diet_poison]

woah, you just unleashed a lot of unwarranted rage there 0_0

[diet_poison]

hmm, I don't know. That's actually maybe not something I've thought of super hard because I've given a lot of consideration to having an adoptive family (I know for sure I want kids one day). But it's an interesting question. I think my spiritual beliefs would play into the answer for me, tbh.

Also, even though I've had some really rough times in my life, and there are times I would say I wished I were dead/hadn't been born, overall I'm very happy that my parents decided to have me. I rather like being alive.

[(Anonymous)]

That's really nice for you.

But parents still willingly take the risk of their child being unhappy as fuck with being born, and in the end, it's the child that has to deal with that.

I think it's okay to be a parent, but it's a huge responsibility. You're taking a huge risk for another person, and you owe it to that other person to minimise that risk any way you can.

[diet_poison]

I think it's okay to be a parent, but it's a huge responsibility. You're taking a huge risk for another person, and you owe it to that other person to minimise that risk any way you can.

I can get on board with this. And to be clear I don't think you should have kids unless you can provide for them and take care of them.

[(Anonymous)]

You realize that's an ideal right?

The sort of demographic that shouldn't have kids for this reason are the very ones who do. The poor and uneducated and ignorant add to crowding overpopulation.

This is a 3rd world problem.

[diet_poison]

Yes, I realize that is ideal. It's also ideal to say that nobody should be in poverty or uneducated, but it would still be a good thing and people are working towards that goal.

[(Anonymous)]

yyyeah so the above ragy post was a misfire, sry to have hit the wrong commenter