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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-09 02:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2230 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
No, they're not obligated at all. You see, when people are born, they don't automatically sign a contract. Also, my parents were horribly abusive (in the mental/emotional/sometimes physical sense). When they're old, you can bet your ass that I sure as fuck won't be taking care of them.
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[personal profile] incorrupt 2013-02-10 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
/same person, different RP accounts

Yeah, the thing is, I genuinely don't understand how people can think like that. My parents are abusive as well, especially my mother, but they gave me food and shelter and paid for my education. That's at least one thing I have to repay them for, if nothing else.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
When you have, say, a dog it is understand that you owe that dog food, pets and walkies because you took on the decision to have a dog.

Likewise, when you decide to have a child, you take on certain responsibilities. Amongst them is feeding, clothing, sheltering your kid and yes, giving them the best shot at the life they want that is within your means. Because you had them without fucking asking.

So no, you don't have to repay anything. If you want to, that's awesome. It's admirable and gracious. But don't pretend people owe their parents anything, because they fucking don't.

(That said, I love my parents despite the fucked up life they set me up for, and I pretty much intend to care for them. But there's no debt there.)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Once they had you, they were obligated to. Not giving you up for adoption does not mean you owe them anything. You do not need to repay them for anything because you did not ask to be born. They owed you food, shelter, and an education.

You might feel grateful, but you're not obligated to. No child is obligated to do something for their parents.

That said, if you had good parents, and you can't even be bothered to care for them, you are a bad person. You're not obligated to, no, but you're still a bad person.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
people certainly don't sign contracts, but in 99% of cases you are kind of a shit if you abandon your family

in my culture, the family unit is something that sticks together through thick and thin. it's really sad to me when, not to point fingers, but americans are so quick to abandon families, not visit the elderly, become alienated, etc. to me, the family unit is, well, family, when people make mistakes it doesn't mean you forgive them instantly but you just don't give up on them. i get there are some exceptions with abuse, parents disowning children, etc. but the point here is the philosophy of family having a meaning that can almost never be revoked and that a lot can be forgiven if you try, that's what family is, imo, about. repairing what's broken, growing and loving unconditionally.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much everyone that has said you're not obligated to take care of your parents has also said you still should take care of good ones.

But the thing about Americans, and the American spirit and culture, is that it's very independent. Americans do not like being beholden to things they do not personally choose. It's not that Americans aren't willing to donate time or money to those things anyway, but they don't like being obligated. Americans generally do and want to take care of their parents, but many would also argue that they don't have an obligation to anyway. They do it out of love, not some sort of blood oath.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
lol