[ SECRET POST #2231 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2231 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Whether or not having lots of sex is a dumb decision depends on who you're choosing to have all that sex with. Sounds to me like the OP would just prefer to see characters who exhibit some taste and discretion in their choice of partners, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, apparently that is slut-shaming, according to a bunch of folk downthread, because of...reasons.


Yeah, I got nothing.

[(Anonymous)]

"It's a bad decision because I don't approve of who you choose to have sex with" is still slut-shaming, sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

No it isn't, sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it is.

[magpiestar]

NUH UH YEAH HUH
:p

[(Anonymous)]

"It's a bad decision because it was written superfluously/doesn't fit with the character's personality/is a clear example of someone getting the to hold the idiot ball just for plot's sake" isn't slut-shaming.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not what the secret said, though.

[(Anonymous)]

It's what YOU don't want it to say, for some reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Except there is a whole load of different bad decisions that someone can hate without it being slutshaming.

If a character on a show is making the dumbass mistake of not using proper protection just so the writers can write a pregnancy scare into the plot hating that is not slut-shaming. Especially if it is ooc for the character to do so.

If writers are basically using a character's 'liberated sex morals' as a cheap way to get a load of tits and ass shots on tv, you can absolutely hate that behaviour without being it being slut shaming.

characters on tv =/= real people. We can question their actions to a different degree because they are not making them themselves. It is something that is being made by a team of writers and their biases can damn well carry into stuff. It's like... Any woman should be allowed to wear what she wants in real life to a reasonable extend (like safety, general norms etc) But just because any woman should be able to do so in real life doesn't mean we can't question character costumes when it is obvious that the women in the show are only dressing like that cause a team of creative male editors wanted to see boobs.

[(Anonymous)]

"Any woman should be allowed to wear what she wants in real life to a reasonable extend (like safety, general norms etc)"

Not even general norms. Safety and not exposing yourself to nonconsenting people are literally the only things that matter. As long as you observe those, wear whatever you want.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there's also any dress policies at work. Probably shouldn't wear torn jeans if the dress code is "business casual"

[(Anonymous)]

If your work or school has a dress code, you are gonna have to stick to that. Similarly, you don't show up to someone's funeral wearing a glitter shirt and track-bottoms with juicy on the ass. Sometimes situations just have norms.

[visp]

Lol no. Your sister's husband, your abusive ex, the previous one-night-stand that you're pretty sure stole some of your jewelry on the way out, your boss, your direct subordinate, your teenage student... the list is endless.

[(Anonymous)]

Not all of those are bad. Is the person consenting? Is there no cheating involved? Congrats, you can have sex with them!

[(Anonymous)]

you'd ASSUME that your sister wouldn't want you to sleep with her husband. or that you'd be smarter than to sleep with your underage student but apparently calling people out for breaking someone's trust and then the law is slut-shaming.

[(Anonymous)]

^This

Sometimes I think SJWs are getting carried away with this "____"-shaming stuff. I agree with things like calling girls "sluts" for having more sex than you do, (or more partners and ASSUMING that they're having sex) or fat shaming (because some people overeat to deal with feelings so shaming them makes them feel worse, and yanno, human decency)

But calling out people for doing things that are wrong, like sleeping with a teenage student is not "waaaah stop shaming" it's something that is fucking illegal. If it were a male creeping on a female student you'd better believe that they'd be up in arms about it. But apparently if it's a woman creeping on a teenage male student "stop shaming her she's a sexually liberated woman" apparently.

(except if a woman is having sex with a teenager that's not sexually liberated that's being a kind of rapist)

SA IMPORTANT NOTE

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that things like calling girls "sluts" for having more sex than you do, (or more partners and ASSUMING that they're having sex) or fat shaming (because some people overeat to deal with feelings so shaming them makes them feel worse, and yanno, human decency) are wrong.

sorry, got carried away in my own sentence.

[visp]

"Can?" Sure. Doesn't mean it won't be a stupid decision that'll cause you grief in the long run.

[(Anonymous)]

So...none of those Visp listed were bad?

Your sister's husband = cheating

Your teenage student = non-consent

[(Anonymous)]

You think it's all right to have sex with your teenaged student?

You're not making your case very well.

[inkmage]

Aren't underage people and people on the lower end of a power imbalance pretty much recognized as not being able to fully consent? (I mean in magical fairy-tale land where everyone is consent-aware and SSC regardless of how vanilla they are, etc.)

I'm not really trying to cover for AYRT, since it sounds like they didn't read Visp's list and just spat out a ready response, but still, their guidelines were a) consent and b) no cheating, so....