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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-16 04:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #2237 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
It's dawned on me that the lyrics to the song "Popular" from Wicked are basically the apparent rationale of a lot of SJWs.

I mean, seriously:

Whenever I see someone
Less fortunate than I
(And let's face it, who isn't
less fortunate than I?)
My tender heart
tends to start to bleed

and so on. I can't unsee this now. (Also I was too impatient to make a secret about it.)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
People like that have been universally called bleeding hearts for hundreds of years. SJW is a shiny new internet term that hasn't spread much beyond a few large online circles. Whatever you call them, they tend to be the object of scorn or ridicule by everyone else.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for pointing out that 'bleeding heart' isn't exactly a new derogatory term for the socially liberal.

My take on the whole recurrent SJW debate: can't everyone just get the fuck over it already? I mean, there are people in the world who advocate for social justice. Depending on your political opinions, you either think this is a good idea or you do not (I generally do, as I identify as socially liberal/left wing, but that's besides the point). Now, some of these people use the internet - shock, horror! And some of that sample size are idiots - again, shock, horror! And of those idiots, some of them are ludicrously extreme to the point of damaging the image of the cause they're purporting to support.

But that's a minority. Kind of like how the Westbaro Baptist Church doesn't represent all Christians, or even all fundamentalist Christians.

Ugh. *drinks more red wine, hopes this comment is late enough that it doesn't cause wank*

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, I agree. I'm a social justice advocate and frankly the whole SJW and Anti-SJW debate annoys me to no end. Both sides are acting like brats.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
bleeding heart is definitely different than sjw.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's true.

The "Popular" lyrics can describe a particularly grating form of philanthropy, yes -- if you want to extend the metaphor, the kind where you pity people for not having something they never wanted. "Oh, those poor starving people! We must send them Bibles!" You could say it's comparable to SJWs telling people they should be offended by things, in the sense of "you do so have a problem I know what I'm talking about".

But -- the "Popular" lyrics describe a form of philanthropy. It's obnoxious as all get out and horrifically uninformed, but the immediate goal is to make someone's life better.

The kind of internet SJWs you're presumably talking about have, theoretically, the long-term goal of making people's lives better, but their immediate goal seems to be making people's lives worse. (Not the same people.)