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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-19 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2240 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2240 ⌋

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chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-20 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
They're probably in an echo chamber that tells them that all their self-diagnoses are accurate (and anyone skeptical is a bigot), that all forms of personal sadness and malaise are symptoms of a medically diagnosable condition, and that there is no division between the personal and the public. If you feel sad today everyone needs to know and you must not attempt to cheer yourself up

If people are dumping on you all the time I suggest making new friends or waiting until they grow out of it or work on getting better.

If they never grow out of it and never end up actually diagnosed avoid them.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-20 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I should note that I've been prone to this behavior in the past. Though I've gotten a lot better I know full well what the motivation for uploading all your issues on people is.

Avoid people dumping their problems on you constantly. They're being parasitical. They don't mean it but you can't let them drag you down with them. You don't owe them that.
likeadeuce: (Default)

[personal profile] likeadeuce 2013-02-20 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing in the secret suggests to me that the people OP is talking about are self-diagnosing or don't have legitimate problems....

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Trouble is that when there's that many people who have terrible debilitating issues that need constant maintenance, it's a fair bet that there's a degree of delusion at play.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2013-02-20 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, there really are a lot of assholes on this thread.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

What I was trying to say (poorly, apparently) is that the "hive mind" of fandom can extend to the sort of issues that OP is talking about. There are people who are attracted to the perceived "excitement" of having problems and the attention that they can gain by having them.

Along another vein, there are people who legitimately have problems but who, rather than attempt to solve them/get the professional help that they sorely need, attach themselves to a few friends or to a community that perpetuates said problems.

Both situations are very unhealthy.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2013-02-20 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
Um, not really. I have like, two friends that legit have issues and I listen to them and support them, but the others I know of, especially only fandom friends? There's too many that it's either coincidence or they're blowing things out of proportion for attention.

Which is why I usually just skip past their self-depreciating posts all the time because, more times than not, I just don't believe it.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
And then there is naive, credulous little you.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2013-02-20 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Have already been through several cycles of this, sorry you were late, thanks for playing!

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Right. Because there isn't a higher concentration of people with debilitating issues on the internet than, say, at your school or workplace. For a lot of us, this is the ONLY way we have to reach out beyond the walls of our homes, the ONLY way to meet people we aren't related to.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
SA
That isn't to say it's OK for anyone to dump all of their stuff on their friends or family. Of course you should engage with them about your issues, but it's never right to make personal relationships all about one person. Basically: don't be a leech.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

That's the sort of thing that I'm talking about, though, and that flags it for me. So, let me rephrase: when there's a high concentration of leeches it's safe to say that there's a degree of delusion at play.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
NA

I would not say that. In my experience people with "real", verified problems are equally likely to be a huge sucking hole of misery drawing in all around them.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

It isn't safe to say that at all. Non delusional people are perfectly capable of being leeches. Getting mired in self pity or engaging in extreme attention seeking are not synonymous with delusion, not of any degree. Of course it's possible. Is it more likely than in people who don't engage in those behaviors? No.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
"should engage with them"? Really?

There is no should. It's amazing if people decide to do it, but nobody is ever fucking obligated.
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[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2013-02-20 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
But here's the thing, even with legitimate problems, if all your doing in a friendship is taking support and energy and all that from your friend and not giving back... then, problems or not, you're not being a good friend. There's a limit to how much a single person can give and if you keep pushing someone to that limit, happy or not, it's going to have a negative effect.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2013-02-20 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, which is why I don't understand the number of people who are jumping to the conclusion that OP could only be talking about self-diagnosing fakers who are faking their problems. OP's need to draw boundaries with their friends is completely unrelated to whether the friends have real problems.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! This.
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[personal profile] othellia 2013-02-20 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Wonderfully said.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2013-02-20 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, I should have just left it at this in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-20 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
You are being a star in this thread. <3