ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-09-04 12:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #242 ]


⌈ Secret Post #242 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Back to school time! ♥ Please do forgive my early or late posts. ♥ And, er. Have an early today~! 'causeIgottarun!

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 102 secrets from Secret Submission Post #035.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, September 5th, 2007.
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[identity profile] merboo.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell no, you're not the only one. I absolutely *loved* The Majestic.

[identity profile] runic-binary.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
24. You're not the only one. (Clearly.)

27. Oh god Mori and Honey. Their relationship is seriously my favorite one in anime, like, ever. They're so cuuuute.

28. I have that problem too. My dad will be like "Hey, you wanna watch this slasher flick I rented?" and I'll be like "Watch a WHAT with you? O_o"

[identity profile] i-heart-cameron.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
22 KIGO KIGO KIGO

[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
1. At the risk of being labeled an elitist, my own fandom has, a serious problem with fans who think they understand the series perfectly courtesy of secondhand knowledge like that. It's a running joke in fandom circles that it sometimes seems like at least a third of people who claim to be 'fans' have no acquaintance with it beyond screenshots, webpages, and other people's fanfiction. Generally speaking, those of us who have firsthand knowledge of the canon can spot fans like this a mile off by the things they produce.

The sad fact of the matter is that a lot of the time the things they produce are riddled with inaccuracies and don't betray any real understanding of what the show was trying to do. I've seen fans in this position try and write fic. It seldom, if ever, works.

I was a fan like that myself for some time, though I never called myself one, and all the secondhand knowledge really did was make me keener on seeing the show (and isn't that really the point of summaries and screencaps? They're not intended to replace seeing the series, just to help people know what they're getting themselves into). I mention this only because my current favorite character is someone who, in all my days going on secondhand knowledge, I did not even notice. I knew everything about him: what he did, how he had got there, what happened to him. I knew all his story arcs. I did not notice him as a character until I watched the show and saw him in action.

It wasn't until I watched the show and really understood the canon, either, that I was able to call out some of the fannish consensus I had been working with as total nonsense. Every fandom I've been in there's been a fair amount of bad fanon flying about the place. The only way for a new fan to tell what's canon fact and what's the product of conjecture, misreading or fangirl favoritism is to go to source. My own favorite character is often portrayed as clumsy, and an orphan. One of those traits is canon. The other is fanon. There's no way to know which is which unless you know the source.

Knowing a series secondhand doesn't make you a lesser fan. What it makes you is considerably less informed than someone who's actually sat down and watched the show. (And, all too often, considerably less fun to talk to.) It's not for me to say how you enjoy a show, but if you've never actually seen it, how do you know that your views on the storyline or characters stand up to even cursory scrutiny from someone who has? I've seen my favorite character slammed as a 'Wolverine reject' by someone who called herself a fan yet freely admitted she hadn't watched the show, simply because of his choice of weapon. That's not an informed reason for disliking a character who has precisely one thing in common with Wolverine - well, two if you count gender.

If that's elitism. I guess that makes me elitist. But if you really like a show, why should it be such a hardship to sit down and watch it?

Not the Secret Poster

(Anonymous) 2007-09-04 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm assuming that your fandom is WK.

If it is...man, the fanon surrounding those characters (perhaps especially surrounding Ken, but I'm biased because he was also my favorite, so I read a lot more about him than any of the others) could eat a man alive. I mean, I stopped paying attention around the time Glühen came out, but up until that point I remember it being pretty insane.

And I do think that that was in no small way a result of people not wanting to watch the show (what with the animation and the awesomely ridiculous plotlines) and not having the manga and CDs readily available, but still wanting to write and read about the hot sexy lovin'.

So, yeah, I agree with you. Basing your love of a character off of other people's interpretations of him/her doesn't mean you "love" that character, even if you are popular for your characterization in fanfic/RPs/whatever.

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[identity profile] enfeebledchi.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
18 - OMG me too! It's shallow to think that, I guess. But man do I feel bad if they never bang and one of them dies.

21 - LEGENDS OF THE HIDDEN TEMPLE FOR THE FREAKING WIN. YOU ARE AMAZING. I WATCH THAT SHOW ALL THE TIME ON NICK GAS.

24 - His comedic work is fun and all, but you get such a feel for what a GREAT ACTOR he is when you see his serious movies. I've been watching some of his films and I'm sort of like, "Why do I have a crush on Ace Ventura?" He's amazing though. Eternal Sunshine rocks.

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[identity profile] ex-parle.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, I agree. ;_;

Another is Episode 25 in FMA. :/ Gngh, EVERY TIME.

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[identity profile] batmarg.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
FMA 25-hell yes.

My mother wonders if there's something wrong with me every time.

[identity profile] orphen.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
8. Xenosaga love! It does have some seriously hot characters. XD
I want Albedo. <3

11. I love Hakuryuu! But I'll take Hakkai, instead. :D

12. I'd ship that.

21. I love watching reruns and just laughing at those kids. XD
prototypical: (Sanzo/Hakkai humor)

[personal profile] prototypical 2007-09-04 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll take Hakkai...with Sanzo.

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[identity profile] ivory-illusions.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
22. Ahhh seriously! I always think that about disney/nickelodeon shows, like why can't the best guy and girlfriend (Kim Possible, Lizzie McGuire,etc.) just STAY best friends? Why do they always have to get together?! D;
albijuli: (...)

[personal profile] albijuli 2007-09-04 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do they always have to get together?!

ALWAYS? I wasn't aware of that, since I don't watch any disney. Really!?

That puts a spin on things. The pairing does feel kinda lame, now.
albijuli: (p.709)

[personal profile] albijuli 2007-09-04 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
8.lmao omg D:

17. I don't blame you, but Ireally recommend the game anyway. So, you know, you won't get confusedat the plot. Or something.

That sounds really moot.

22. This sounds suspiciously like the Sonic/Sally debate. (OK, I'm only half-joking.)

24. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind FTW.

28. Did anyone ever take goblins seriously?
prototypical: (Seifer/Squall chibis)

[personal profile] prototypical 2007-09-04 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
2. I love well-done angst (or else I wouldn't be running [livejournal.com profile] un_happyendings [/self promotion]), but fluff is awesome too. It's just sometimes hard to find fluff that's not OOC or too silly to be sweet, which is the main reason I tend to stick to darker fair.

You get my adorable chibi icon!

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[identity profile] mojotmonkey.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
21. MFing signed. I would literally sit and yell at the screen "TURN IT AROUND! YOU HAVE TO TURN IT AROUND! STOMACH GOES FORWARD!"

Blue Barracudas FTW.

24. Yessssssssssssss. But there's not a lot here that I can't say that others haven't. XD

[identity profile] melting.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
SILVER SNAKES >>>>>>>>>>>>

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THREE AND TWENTY FOUR

[identity profile] sparklemagpie.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
3)Oh my GOD that scene had me in hysterics. ;_; (But I'm painfully sensitive so I guess that doesn't mean much...)

24) You are NOT alone. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind blew me away and made me seek out all of his other more serious work with crazy glee.

[identity profile] vriska.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
12. ... I have to admit that I've roleplayed Jade/Nephry before. And yes, that does mean pairing-wise.

But yes, this is totally my OT4 from this game. They're actually the only characters I care about in the series, aside from Anise and MAYBE Guy.

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-05 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
:o I would love to read that. I've RPed Jade/Nephry before too, but the person I RPed with has pretty much dropped out of the fandom altogether...

They're definitely my favorite characters too. I do like the main cast as well(Anise! ♥), but I find the Keterburg crew just...fascinating. Individually and as a group. I could go on for hours about them. XD;

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[identity profile] batmarg.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
3. I know. I still think it's one of the saddest scenes EVER in anime.

5. OMG! I crushed on him too....and still do in a way.

[identity profile] gaignun.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
8) The swimsuits were so awesome. AND YES, THEY WERE VERY HOT. /o/

And reposted to add that everyone in that damn game is hot. ;_;! even allen in his swimsuit iyan

(Anonymous) 2007-09-04 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
FOR SERIOUS, MAN

DAMN IT JR. STOP MAKING ME FEEL LIKE I OUGHT TO BE BANNED FROM LJ

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[identity profile] hawthornegem.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I read this thing often enough I need to join now...but anyway:

9. DO IT. Seriously. For about three months after my friends and I watched AG, we started roller blading at the local rink, we've got our own OC's, we have (mostly) the same clothes as our OCs - IT ROCKS. I highly recommend it.

21. Haha yeah. I can't remember which puzzle it was, but there was another "simple" one that was TOO EASY to solve that most kids got stuck on. :b
ext_389208: (I Approve.)

[identity profile] victorien.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
3. Haha, I remember that scene. I bawled. In front of my dad. At a showing at an anime convention. But they were those silent sobs. He thought I was laughing/having a seizure until he looked at my face. Best story arc ever. I love Haku to bits. ♥

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[identity profile] elleestlimonade.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

Jim Carrey is a fantastic dramatic actor! <333 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is pretty much the best movie ever. X3

[identity profile] jianna.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
24. You're definitely not the only one. Eternal Sunshine <3

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[identity profile] jukebox-hero.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
9. You and me both! I miss dressing like that, but I'm just too lazy anymore.

12. Yay Keterburg crew! Personally, I'm totally a Jade/Dist fan, but Jade/Nephry would be totally hot (and could definitely work given Jade's twisted personality). *plotbunnies bounce about*

27. Don't we all? *sigh*

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-05 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
You would be my HERO if you wrote something for them. ♥

It IS totally hot~ ;~;

(and Jade/Dist is awesome too XD)

[identity profile] anthraxpretzels.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
20. That's...so sad... T__T -snif- But you can't give up. It's as easy as not setting the goal in the first place... D:


TWO PHOENIX WRIGHT SECRETS YAY :D

[identity profile] mint-eclair.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
6. THE PRINCE IS AWESOME. NO NEED FOR SECRETS.
18. AHAHA. Signed! Great now I feel like playing FFX

[identity profile] xfwee.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
13. I don't really know about his character, but I do know some people have taken to calling him "Dorky" XD
21. LMAO the memories

[identity profile] saave.livejournal.com 2007-09-04 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
1. You're not a part of the series fandom, then. Even if you like a person. xP It sort of is very lazy of you. ;D
3. D: Yeah, it made me tear uuup.
4. Lol Case.
21. I've ah, seen that before...
24. I honestly can't take him seriously. xD After Ace Ventura and all that jazz, it just doesn't fit.

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