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⌈ Secret Post #2245 ⌋

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[fscom]

16. http://i.imgur.com/R5M48Lj.png

[fauxkaren]

I like that idea. I just hope Twelve isn't written by Moffat because I don't trust him with complex characterization at all.

[(Anonymous)]

It's likely Moffat will leave at the end of this year or the next. Showrunners of high-strung shows like DW tend to suffer burnout rather fast.

[akashasheiress]

I just hope he isn't succeeded by Mark Gatiss.

[fauxkaren]

Or Chris Chibnall.

It does seem like Gatiss is being groomed to take over though, unfortunately.

[akashasheiress]

I'm rooting for Gareth Roberts, but I highly doubt it'll be him.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd have liked Paul Cornell if I could be sure that he'd reign in his really dark nasty concepts. But I'd most prefer someone new. New ideas are good.

I dunno that Gatiss would make a terrible showrunner though. The episodes he writes are definitely lackluster, but his ideas and characterization is pretty good so if he was more of a backseat kind of guy...

[akashasheiress]

Cornell sounds decent, as long as he doesn't write another Evil!Romana.

[fenm]

I just hope he isn't succeeded by Mark Gatiss.

Would you care to elaborate?

For the record, I'm only familiar with Gatiss' work on Sherlock, and I like it well enough, but I'm interested to hear what problems you have with him.

[akashasheiress]

I just haven't been all that impressed with his work on Who so far, although that doesn't mean he'd be a crappy showrunner. An example would be The Idiot's Lantern and the whole ''You should totally make up with your abusive dad'' - ending, although so far both New Who showrunners have written extremely problematic stuff, so that would just be more of business-as-usual thing, I suppose. I'm also slightly worried that he'll take over/continue some Moffat plots/characters/pairings I haven't been to pleased with, since him and Moffat are tight.

[fenm]

Oh! I wasn't aware Gatiss had written for Who... heh.

I'm also slightly worried that he'll take over/continue some Moffat plots/characters/pairings I haven't been to pleased with, since him and Moffat are tight.

Yeah, that I do agree would suck... [sigh]

[fauxkaren]

Gatiss and Moffat seem pretty close, so if Gatiss were to take over, then I'm afraid it'd just be more of the same.

Gatiss's best work for New Who is "The Unquiet Dead" which is a decent episode. But like... he also wrote "Victory of the Daleks" and "Night Terrors" which are really bad, so... yeah.

I cringe to think of what Doctor Who might be like under him.

[fenm]

Gatiss and Moffat seem pretty close, so if Gatiss were to take over, then I'm afraid it'd just be more of the same.

Yeah, true...

Yeah, "Unquiet dead" was pretty good, but, yeah, those other two are... not.
Mighty Morphin Power Daleks!

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno. See. Night Terrors was a terrible episode plot-wise and writing-wise and directing-wise, but on the other hand, that intro? With the little boy and the cupboard and the little childish mantra reaching halfway across the galaxy? Those kinds of kid-friendly ideas are things I love to see in Doctor Who.

Now, if Gatiss had to actually write lots of big plotty episodes, he would utterly suck. But if he was a different kind of showrunner, one who delegated more work to other writers...I think he could pull it off.

[charming_stranger]

"Victory of the Daleks" was indeed very bad, and I wasn't too fond of the ending of "The Idiot's Lantern", but the rest of the latter episode I actually found pretty good. I haven't seen "Night Terrors", but "The Unquiet Dead" was okay.

Anyway, people were over the moon about Moffat becoming showrunner when it was first announced, because his episodes so far had been absolutely brilliant. RTD's own episodes were really uneven, but I was much happier about the show in general when he was showrunner. I don't think there's a direct correlation between the quality of someone's episodes and how well they perform as showrunner. I'm ... tentatively hopeful, even though it could of course be as bad as you fear.

[(Anonymous)]

Oooohh, I have it -- J.J. Abrams!

[(Anonymous)]

We have to go back, Kate! We have to go back in time!

[(Anonymous)]

So...what would good songs about the other incarnations be? Not counting Handlebars because that's what everyone always says.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Viva La Vida would be good for Nine or Ten or both. Partly because it's a song that tends to vid well.

[charming_stranger]

Ooh, definitely for Ten! I'd love to see that! =)

ETA: Although it would work even better for the Master.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

I think it would be too on-the-nose perfect for the Master. For Ten, it'd have sufficient reversals and defiance and ironies to make a very metaphorical song a subtle meaning, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

I immediately thought of the music from Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for...well, you know. ;)