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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-02 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2251 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2251 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-02 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
But...that doesn't make it better.

Saying, "Hey, it sure would be offensive if I do this thing!" doesn't mean that anyone calling you a jackhole after you do that thing is wrong. He did sing a song that inherently sexualized breasts regardless of context (including rape scenes, medical scenes, and in one particular charming case--a literal invasion of someone's actual, in-real-life-not-a-movie privacy involving hacked phones and private photos being spread around on the internet).

That's always been MacFarlane's schtick--the attempted refuge in audacity. The upfront knowledge that he's being offensive, followed by him doing/saying offensive stuff with a great big grin. But the joke is still, "Hey, these actresses here to receive recognition for professional achievement, we saw your boobs, and that is both hilarious and sexual!" Followed by a pretend shake of the finger by Shatner.

Hell, it just reinforces the whole idea of men saying really crappy things to women, but they're just being rascals, so hey!
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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-03-02 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Just admit that you didn't get the joke. Because, clearly, you don't.

[personal profile] straydog733 2013-03-03 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Different anon, but no, I'd call that a pretty accurate breakdown of the joke.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2013-03-03 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
You realize that just because the punchline is supposed to be "We all know this is terrible, hyuck hyuch" doesn't actually make the whole thing less offensive right. He executed it badly and it doubled down on the offensive rather than off-set it. I don't think you really get it either.
Edited 2013-03-03 02:14 (UTC)
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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-03-03 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
I got the joke. I even explained it up thread. I never said it was funny or not because humor is subjective. But I understood it completely. And if you don't think I did then you didn't get it.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2013-03-03 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I don't think you get the issue. It wasn't just terrible because it wasn't funny. It was terrible because he tried to use setup/context to defuse the offense and failed, compounding the offense.