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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-02 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2251 ]


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[personal profile] citrinesunset 2013-03-03 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that it was supposed to be offensive doesn't make it an effective joke, though. And I'm not arguing that it wasn't effective. Personally, I felt like it wasn't because it seemed to hinge too much on the idea that a woman exposing her breasts is shameful. But obviously this is subjective and comes down to taste.

I just don't like it when people act like the fact that something is supposed to be offensive is enough to make it funny. There generally has to be more of a point than "Hey! I just said something that makes me sound like a jackass!"

(Anonymous) 2013-03-03 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I felt like it wasn't because it seemed to hinge too much on the idea that a woman exposing her breasts is shameful

That's the biggest problem I have with it. (Well, that, and the fact that one of those incidents referenced wasn't an actress making a choice, but having her privacy violated.) It just reinforces the American taboo against nudity.

People say you're a prude if you didn't like that song, and I feel like it's the opposite. Nudity is natural. Breasts are natural (most of the time). It isn't shocking to have breasts. It isn't all that shocking to see breasts either.

And the contexts of four of those scenes were either a rape or a medical (often after-rape/abuse) scene. You can see the actress's breasts, but not in even a remotely sexual way.

But MacFarlane's song seems to cheerfully taunt all of the actresses for having shown their boobs, and then it just enforces the idea that breasts, in ANY context, are sexual objects, and not just a natural part of a woman's body. Which serves to make them "shocking" on film. And just...gah, it's so stuuuupid.
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[personal profile] citrinesunset 2013-03-03 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
The reaction shots kind of annoyed me, too, since some of them seemed like they were supposed to suggest that the actresses saw doing nude scenes as something embarrassing. Yes, it was staged and apparently the actresses who participated were all right with it. But that doesn't mean anyone is obligated to find it funny.

I agree that using examples rape scenes and other non-sexual contexts was in poor taste, too.

I'm not sure I know what the point of the song was, to be honest. I don't feel like it works as a joke about the ridiculousness of seeing female nudity as shocking, especially with how the reaction shots were staged. And if it was offensive just for the sake of being offensive, then I just don't see that as good humor. I think very few comedians are good at doing offensiveness for the sake of offensiveness.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-03 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I felt like it wasn't because it seemed to hinge too much on the idea that a woman exposing her breasts is shameful.

I thought it was about the idea that guys are so simple minded they can name every actress who's boobs they've seen. Cause I mean he kinda pulled that joke in Family Guy with Peter.