[ SECRET POST #2251 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2251 ⌋

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Comments

[otakugal15]

Has anyone also stopped to look up the films and notice that most of them are Oscar winners in some form or were basically Oscar bait?

I mean...he could have mentioned Swordfish instead of Monster's Ball, but he didn't.

He specifically targeted films that were up for nominations of some sort.

And nobody thinks that may be the point? Why did the 4 movies mentioned that have rape scenes NEED for the audience to see their breasts? Why did these movies need that at all?

[(Anonymous)]

Why is it bad that they showed their breasts?

Why is that the bit folks defending the song come down on?

Because breasts are a part of a woman's body. Because in rape/abuse, they are often targeted. Because movies are a form of visual story-telling, and a movie can be "Oscar Bait" but still be a good movie that did everything it could to effectively tell a story. Because seeing a woman's battered body after a rape scene should elicit feelings of horror and sympathy, not tittering at boobies. Because the context of the scenes would have made it stupid and childish to play camera tricks to avoid the dreaded breast shot.

Because breasts are natural things, and that's okay, and maybe we're all grown-ups and don't need to titter ever time we see some, regardless of the context.


(And it's still a moot point because one of the "saw your boobs!" WASN'T EVEN A MOVIE.)

[otakugal15]

That's not what I was getting at, you fucking ass. Of course women's boobs are natural. What I'm getting at, and what I think he was getting at, is WHY DO THEY HAVE TO SHOW THEM IN A MOVIE THAT IS OSCAR BAIT?!

Because our entertainment industry sees a woman's body as its ticket to a winning movie. Not as a person, as a money ticket. We never seen men's nudity. When we do? It's considered NC-17, because no one wants to see a PERSON like that. Women? They aren't people, so it's A-OK.

And you can get the same, emotional response from a rape scene WITHOUT having to show off the boobs.

His song was literally making fun of everyone who had that reaction. "Oh, we see so-and-so's boobs? I'm in!!"

[citrinesunset]

Maybe? I mean, yeah, I can definitely see that interpretation, but I'm not sure the joke's execution pulled it off well. At the very least, I've seen much cleverer Oscar-bait jokes.

[otakugal15]

Oh I know. The execution, if that's a true interpretation, wasn't that good, but it's why I wasn't offended. That's what I took away from it. And not him shaming them either. Just questioning WHY these Oscar bait movies have to have topless actresses, but no boxerless men.

Though the remark about Scar Jo is, yeah....typical male there.

[citrinesunset]

Yeah, I think it would be possible to craft a decent joke about the prevalence of female nudity vs. male nudity. This one, if that was the intent, wasn't focused enough.

And yeah, the Scar Jo reference was pretty crass and didn't even fit at all if the joke was supposed to be about Oscar-bait nudity.