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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-12 06:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2261 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2261 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Gamers 2: Dorkness Rising]


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03.
[My Mad Fat Diary]


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04.
[Homestuck]


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05.
[Prequel]


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[Kaichou wa Maid-sama, Nana, UraBoku, Sukitte Ii na yo, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, and Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo]


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[Skyrim]


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08.
[Dangan Ronpa]


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09.
[Star Wars/Spaceballs]


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10.
[Baraka]


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[Yosoeb Yang / B2ST]


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[Wolf Children Ame & Yuki]


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13.
[Charmed]


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14.
[The Following]


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[Sherlock]


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16.
[Penny and Aggie]


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[Teen Wolf]


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18.
[Sengoku Basara]


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[Big Bang Theory]


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[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-03-12 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess something to note about characters like Han and Leia is they might seem trite and overdone now, but back then they were pretty novel. Scoundrels weren't a big thing in the '70s, and daring, snarky princesses might seem like a pretty regular trope, but back then the demure, soft-spoken kind was entirely expected. That's what Leia's whole "Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper?" is supposed to mean--it's a big moment because up until then, you were expecting her to be fragile and helpless (as was Luke).

So it might be that the parody versions can be more enjoyable nowadays, since they seem less tired as ideas.
wauwy: (sulu)

[personal profile] wauwy 2013-03-12 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Scoundrels have always been a big thing in American cinema though.

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-03-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
But more in a swashbuckling kind of way--he rescues damsels and steals a kiss! Han Solo codified a more asshole kind of scoundrel. Prior to that, the only kind was more like Robin Hood.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd add most of the work Paul Newman and Robert Redford did in the 70s.

The homecoming between Sundance and Etta is still one of my favorite scoundrel scenes ever.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's less that it was unknown, and more that the concept of snarky, scoundrelish protagonists went into hibernation in big-budget Hollywood movies for a couple decades. I mean, you have plenty of characters like in classic Hollywood movies and film noir and screwball and all those sorts of things - it's only with the cowboy movies and the military movies and the big-budget blah stuff of the 60s, and then the grimness and seriousness of a lot of the 70s, that it doesn't exist so much.

So it's more of a renaissance than an innovation. And even then, you already had James Bond, who's as snarky and dickish as you like.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
...And?

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-03-13 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
"So it might be that the parody versions can be more enjoyable nowadays, since they seem less tired as ideas."

I made it its own little paragraph.

Is F!S just extremely bad with reading comprehension?
Edited 2013-03-13 00:24 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-03-13 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Are you just extremely bad with responding to people who actually bring up cogent points in response to your comments, or does it flatter your ego to only respond to the stupid people and pretend that they represent the entire population?

[personal profile] sugar_spun 2013-03-13 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, I just didn't want to get into a long debate about it. I'd just be rephrasing myself scoundrels like Han Solo were novel. I didn't say they were utterly new or an invention, just that people weren't used to his kind of character they way they are now, where Solos saturate fiction. No one thus far has refuted my point, just misunderstood it.

I responded to this person because you're an extra kind of idiot if you miss a single sentence separated from the rest that addresses the question you're going to ask.

So it's okay, you can put all your jimmies back into place.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-13 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
I AM A SPRINKLE MONSTER AND MY SPRINKLES GET OUT OF PLACE SOMETIMES!

What a great mental image.