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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-16 03:16 pm

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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-03-16 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that there are plenty of REAL small town nobodies who aspire to rise from obscurity and that doesn't happen anymore, in a music industry where you already have to be filthy rich or have a mommy or daddy in the recording industry to get anywhere. I don't really see how that's fascinating aside from being, like I said, laughable and awful

I miss the days when someone like Dolly Parton could become successful off their singing/songwriting ability (Swift isn't good at either by the way) despite coming from extremely modest means. That's basically the American dream -- working hard and developing a talent and becoming successful based on your own merits. Taylor Swift is pretty much the opposite of that and that's why I can't stand her.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-16 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying she's a good person, and her prominence is certainly a result of a cultural / economic landscape that is in many ways deeply fucked up. But that's exactly what makes her so interesting as a pop figure - because she has figured out how to work the system so well, and because of what that indicates about what pop music is right now, and because it's interesting to see a person with what seems like such a stark divide between how they present themselves and who they are. I wouldn't want to be her, but she's interesting in the same way that people of massive ambition and talent often are.

And, again, besides anything else, she makes good pop music that I like to listen to, and on some level I'm still going to enjoy that pop music regardless of her persona.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's all very clearly subjective, because I don't find anything about her fascinating at all, unless it's the extent of her lack of talent when required to do anything beyond her inane brand of tripe. (Go track down the live performance she did with Stevie Nicks. It was so atrocious that some of my friends who don't know who Swift is remember it.)

So talent, no. Not at all (which may be why she's still doing high school girly break up love songs - they aren't musically challenging at all). And I wouldn't call her drive "ambition", I'd call it "narcissism".

Then again, there are stars and music I enjoy that others wouldn't, so whatever flips your switch.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
right? idk music history as well but thinking of the lived american dream "rags to riches stories" of old hollywood stars like Joan Crawford make Taylor Swifts supposed rise from obscurity so sad

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
ps just to clarify i mention Crawford cause she's somebody who worked very hard to craft a marketable image for herself like swift - except she actually came from nothing and was selfmade