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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-18 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2267 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2267 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-18 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a horribly oppressed minority at all. It's, like -- the people who don't like chocolate. No, not at all. No, not even in ice cream. No, not even in coffee. No, not like that, either. No, the Triple Chocolate Meltdown doesn't look that awesome. No, I don't know why you've acquired some sort of magnetic attraction to that Godiva box.

It's not oppression, it's nothing like oppression. It's being left out and misunderstood, because you're not interested in the same things as everyone else and no one can figure out how you can dislike it.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-03-18 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
No. If you don't like chocolate you say, "I don't like chocolate." The person offering it goes, "Okay" and eats their chocolate they now do not have to share. The end.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-18 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
In my experience, people do often make it a big deal when you don't like something "everyone" likes. And, no, I'm not saying that's being oppressed, in case anyone is really dumb enough to think that I am.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-18 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
We must live in regions with different levels of chocolate fervency.

How about not drinking? Why don't you drink? Are you sure you don't want to drink? Do you think you're better than us? What about this kind of drink? Have you tried it? No, that's not a very good example, because there are known groups of people who do not drink for various reasons and it's considered bad form to nag them about it.

Maybe coffee? I have never, ever felt oppressed because I don't like coffee, but I have felt awkward when I'm the only one who says "no thanks", and the host keeps asking me if I'm sure I don't want coffee -- tea? No, not that either...

Maybe compare it to people who don't like animals? Everyone is there gushing over the cute kitten, and someone just wants them to shut up about it already...

The person who just doesn't like a popular fandom?

It's not oppression, of course it's not oppression, but it's not an imaginary problem either.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
+1

I don't drink, and I've spent half my life putting up with people who try to get me to drink. People make a big deal out of it because you're not like them and they assume you really do want to be like them. Personally, I don't give a fuck if you drink alcohol or don't want to have sex, or you love to eat onions... just don't try and get me to do it, because I sure as hell don't want to if you keep going on about it to me.

Not oppression, but fucking annoying.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
I totally understand that it would be deeply annoying, and I absolutely sympathise.

Talking about "coming out" as asexual is fucking obnoxious though.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand why it's obnoxious, but in the world at large people do talk about "coming out" as practically anything -- Packers fans, various political affiliations, a cat person, vampires, WHATEVER.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God, the drinking part is so true. I used to drink a lot, then decided to stop. Now people I considered friends give me shit, that I was better when I drank. They don't give me any real reasons why I was better, they don't say what exactly is now "worse" about me, nothing, they just bitch and make me feel like shit.

But that's not the worst part. I quit eating products with sugar in them for health reasons, and now I have a friend WHO BITCHES ABOUT THAT. I guess I need new friends.

Sorry, just needed to vent.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-18 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be nice if it were true. I told some of my (former) friends that I was asexual and most of them said either that I should go to a doctor for sexual dysfunction treatments or that I hadn't met the right person yet. Once word got out, most people referred to me as "Mrs. Friendzone" if they were polite, and "the frigid bitch" if they weren't. I repeatedly saw my phone number written on bathroom stalls under the caption, "For a bad/sad/sexually frustrated/etc. time, call." Get-togethers were punctuated with people asking me if I would have sex with X actor/actress and growl in frustration when I said no. The person offering chocolate does not go, "Okay" and eat chocolate they no do not have to share. The person offering chocolate goes out to buy different types of chocolate at the store and gets offended after you refuse to eat it because you don't like chocolate and they know it, but they don't understand it. Sure, it was only a couple months in high school, but to this day I still get upset when I stumble across someone who looks like one of the bullies who used to tease me. How is that possibly not oppression?

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
You weren't oppressed. Your "friends" were just assholes.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Would you mind elaborating?

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
+1!
I've been called frigid once or twice. Not asexual, though. Just finicky.
wauwy: (sulu)

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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-03-19 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
You weren't oppressed. Your "friends" were just assholes.

FOR REAL

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
This. The government and society aren't actively seeking to remove your rights. You are not being oppressed.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
*now do not have to share.

Above anon: they were nice about everything--my disability, several of my other friends came out as bi or gay--but they thought asexuals were fair game? I think there's something else going on here.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
That's not oppression for being asexual, that's the direct result of misogyny and rape culture -- it's the patriarchy reacting to you being a woman who is not sexually available. You are not oppressed for being asexual.

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a lesbian. I had to come out about being a lesbian, because this identity literally differentiates me on an important level in society. There are laws against my identity, there are many states and countries in the world where my having sex or a relationship period is *illegal*. There are places in the world I could legally be put to death, and many more that a homophobe with a chip on their shoulder could commit an act of violence against me for existing. There are places in my own country I cannot live or go out of fear for my safety. My sexuality in many places in the world still TODAY is treated as a fucking disorder, and not one where you discuss why you don't feel like having sex. One where you receive electroshock treatment and aversion therapy. In a lot of the places it is no longer treated as such, it was only a few decades prior. You're not experiencing oppression for your sexuality. You're experiencing misogyny and asshole friends asking you awkward questions.

So basically, just fuck you, ok??

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-20 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Fucking hate the fact I can't edit that post, but for real. I'm the lesbian from above. The word 'say' was supposed to be in my last sentence -- 'So basically, just say fuck you, ok?' No one deserves to be spoken to that way. While you aren't being oppressed for being asexual, you're being oppressed as a woman and I'm sorry you're experiencing that.

As for the other comments about 'which star would you fuck?' just answer "None." If they keep pressing you and making those asshole comments... you might need better friends.
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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-03-19 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
this subthread is so preposterous, I don't know what is happening

"CHECK YOUR CHOCOLATE CULTURAL PRIVILEGE"

(Anonymous) 2013-03-18 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know the OP's gender (and I assumed female from the ovaries thing, though they're saying other people say that, so they could be male), but I think being an asexual male could be pretty difficult. Some guys just kind of expect other guys to show sexual interest in women, and being asexual could make you seem weird to those types, or possibly make them assume you were gay and trying to cover it up.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not OP, but I'm an asexual female, and people have been downright dickish when I admitted I was asexual.

"Are you sure you don't like girls? Are you sure you haven't found the right person?"

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know the context, but those questions seem more like those people don't actually understand what asexuality is, rather than trying to actively be dicks.
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[personal profile] mechanosapience 2013-03-19 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's still kind of dickish, though.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because it would be perfectly all right if someone who didn't understand homosexuality was asking that.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much, but there's a bit more to it. Some girls think that I'll judge them for having sex, and I've had a few guys think I'll be easy if they just do this or that. People have also assumed that I was molested or had some other traumatic event, and a few times I've been tempted to lie just so they'll shut up.