[ SECRET POST #2272 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2272 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 140 secrets from Secret Submission Post #325.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Is Tumblr really this toxic?

Ugh fandom is doomed, if this keeps up. >_

[elephantinegrace]

Tumblr can be really, really nasty, but I don't think it's any worse than, say, LiveJournal as a fanspace or FaceBook as a social networking site. OP really needs to follow better tumblrs.

[(Anonymous)]

no, it is not.

Some people on tumblr can be toxic yes. These people have always been around in fandom. This same shit was going down ten years ago long before tumblr even existed. It is all very easy to avoid. I've got a tumblr for over a year now and I've never seen any of the stuff that is in the secret because i follow people who are not dicks. It is not that hard.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's not. It, like any other website on earth, has it's horrible people with horrible ideas. Contrary to these people's hateboners' ideas, Tumblr neither invented nor exacerbated the shitty opinions and attitudes of some fans. I've been in fandom for a long time and there's nothing in tumblr that I haven't seen before.

I find it childish that people keep blaming tumblr; horrible attitudes and ideas CANNOT be blamed on a sole single thing. Please stop trying to do that and start to focus on the fact that these problems (i.e. homophobia) are more ingrained in society than in one little website.

I mean, as a counterpoint to the OP, what comes into my dash much more often is people calling out gay fetishizers, and essays explaining why fetishizing is wrong. And ALL my group of friends agree that it's wrong. It's not a hivemind, and actually calling people out on their problematic opinions seems more productive than bitching about a website.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm...if you don't mind me asking. What would be the difference between a gay fetishizer, and a person who simply writes m/m pairings?

Also what about the mentality of not shopping m/m making a person Homophobic?

da

[(Anonymous)]

a gay fetishizer would be someone who writes everything according to a singular pattern regardless of the actual characters in question. If you are writing the stereotypes before the people, you fetishize. These are the same people who sit there wishing they had a gay bff cause omg we can tllly go shopping the whole time and he can do my hair and stuff.

And not shipping m/m doesn't make someone homophobic, but not shipping m/m can be a sign of homophobia. Like, usually it is easy to tell which is which by looking at how they react to other gay pairings or the pairing in general. If someone just shrugs and goes 'not my thing' and goes on? Not homophobic. If someone rallies and rants about omg how dare people turn X gay (cause being gay is the worst thing don't you know), yeah there is a problem.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Well, one big clue is if you think the most important thing about same-sex subtext is whether it makes your favorite ship "canon" or "endgame," and not the fact that good gay characters are still rare and bisexual characters even rarer.

[(Anonymous)]

lol

"You damn kids with your damn tumblrs! When I was a kid, I had to livejournal up a hill, in the snow, BOTH WAYS. And I liked it! Now get off my fandom!"

OP

[(Anonymous)]

*shakes cane* DAGNABBIT!

[(Anonymous)]

It kind of is. There's quite the toxic environment that's built up over there. Just follow the right people and if anyone starts to push out toxic vibes or drama, then drop them like a hot potato.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Tumblr isn't fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

Tumblr is vapid. Ridiculously vapid. But toxic is a case by case basis.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah so far I've found tumblr more vapid than toxic, but in general I think whether your fandom experience is toxic or not pretty much depends on who you follow. If you follow wanky people then it shouldn't be that big of a shock that most of what you experience in fandom is the wank and I think that includes live journal etc.