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[ SECRET POST #248 ]

⌈ Secret Post #248 ⌋

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But why does it requires having sex with someone to know wether or not you're straight/gay/bi/whatever?

I mean seriously, can't someone figure out their sexuality without that? Because, I don't know, if you find the sight of a person of the oposite sex naked, to be disgusting, and the prospect of having sex with it even more disgusting.. And yet, find yourself getting turned on by the prospect of seeing a person of the same sex naked, and having sex with said person to be even better... I don't know, that MAY be a clear sign that you may not be into the opposite sex, no?

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lol.

Kay so i shall tell every straight man I won't believe they are straight until they've actually fucked a man and not liked it lol

I think we'd need to get the secret's OP in there to judge whether he enjoys it or not, since I hear that she is good at telling the gays apart from the straights.

But what if you are only KIND of gay, or KIND of straight, or only gay for one person's penis? Or straight for one girl's vag? Or what if you're a straight girl but you are turned on by another girl's vag! What if you're a straight guy but really enjoyed that heated session your frat brother and you had back in college?

Oh God it's like there are more than two ways to be.

OSHI--

And a lot of internet straight people have no opposite-sex experience at all. What's your point?

22. ...what about asexual people? They were mentioned on the secret. The whole point is that they don't want to have sexual experience.

Nice to see someone else actually realizes that knowing your own sexuality isn't as easy as looking at some femmeslash or having a crush on your RP partner.

I'm not saying you can't be a lesbian without experience or anything. It's just harder to know, personally, that you're a lesbian without experience.

How can you tell if you like chocolate cake over vanilla cake if you haven't tried either one?

How can you tell if you like chocolate cake over vanilla cake if you haven't tried either one?

That reasoning is completely ridiculous if you apply it in reverse. How can you tell you won't like having sex with a man if you are a lesbian, if you've never tried it? How can you tell you won't like it if you are a straight man, if you've never tried it?

Of course it's ridiculous to throw yourself into a label just because you have one crush on a girl, or you like yuri or whatever. Your hands can get you off, fictional characters can get you off, tentacles can get you off in fantasy, so the sky is the limit when it comes to human sexuality in thought and mind.

But a lot of straight girls do not like their first experiences with men, sexually. A lot of them don't have many good sexual experiences with men until they find the right one. So if a lesbian gets with another woman, and ends up not liking it, is she therefore not a lesbian? All of her past feelings for women are now invalidated based on this one experience, this one woman not doing it for you? What about a woman who saves herself for marriage, and ends up not enjoying sex with her husband that much and never really being into it? Is she really heterosexual? She still gets off to the thought of men, but I suppose that's just not enough.

I don't think sexuality is that easy. I don't think it should have a set of rules, either, such as "If you havent done this and that, you cant be sure. If you do this and that, but sometimes feel like going back to doing THIS, then you must have been confused or faking. Etc etc."

Social constructionism plays a giant role. A girl can be confused and have a crush on a woman and of course end up having a harder time actually acting out a sexual act with her, because guess what? It's hard for people to be comfortable with things like that and enjoy it. It doesn't mean her feelings aren't real, though. Unless you actually really want to say that.

There are couples very much in love that end up having the sex die down between them. I guess that means it was just a phase and they no longer love each other. They would have better times with strangers, so they should just go with them instead.

Blah blah I could apply it to anything and point out the hole in that.

It seems like alright logic until you apply it to all sexualities. So let people be confused or not be sure of what they are but say they are something anyways. It's a part of growing up. No need to be self-righteous about it. Really, who gives a shit? People only let it bother them because they want something to be bothered by.

Why do you give a shit about what other people think about it? Do you let these opinions bother you because you want something to be bothered by?

Are you bothered by the fact that she's bothered by it because you just want something to be bothered by?

Are you bothered by the fact that she's bothered by me being bothered by her wanting something to be bothered by?

I'M SO CONFUSED.

Are you bothered by the possibility that I might be bothered by her being bothered by someone else's opinion because she simply wants a reason to bothered?

Ummm, I'm not dictating a large part of someone's identity in this culture and telling them they need to do certain things to be considered something. So yes, that is why I am bothered.

PS you smell.

I'm sorry the internet has offended your delicate sensibilities.

And, yes. Yes, I do smell. I smell like spearmint.

lol internet tough guy.

Betta recanaaaaize.

Lol if you ever voice dissent or argue on the internet you are actually secretly crying behind the monitor and are sensitive and sad

Pretty much. Kind of like if you present an opinion on a controversial subject that doesn't quite fit in with the norm, you're a bigot and ignorant.

I think it's a fair trade.

Nah, I haven't seen myself call you ignorant or a bigot. I kind of just stated my opinion back. I forgot your opinion shield was on! Meaning that if you share your opinion, and I share one countering yours, it means I'm not letting you have yours and think you're a bigot and horrible and should die.

PS, your opinion IS the norm outside of LJ. In fact the lesbian community is pretty hateful and psycho about that stuff GRR YOU FAKE BI GRR ARE YOU BUTCH OR FEMME GRRR YOUVE SLEPT WITH MEN BEFORE GRR GRRR

Which is kind of why they are considered to be hateful douches by a lot of people. And why the media had to be retarded and create the image of the 'fake' lesbian (ie perfect pretty only doing it for attention) and a 'real' lesbian (mean ugly bitch).

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Oh my god. Can't we all agree that sexuality is fluid and not at all easily boiled down to "gay, straight, bi" because there always are and always will be exceptions to every rule and all of us just stop getting butthurt about the entire thing.

Why the hell does everyone care so much what one person with photoshop thinks? Obviously, judging from the comments, they are in the minority, so why does it even matter?

Oh my god. Can't we all agree that sexuality is fluid and not at all easily boiled down to "gay, straight, bi" because there always are and always will be exceptions to every rule and all of us just stop getting butthurt about the entire thing.

Apparently not. And it's not like any secret on here really bothers me past some passing annoyance. I just felt like sharing my opinion. :)

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