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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-29 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2278 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2278 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-29 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I continue to be astonished at this movie being such a big fucking deal. Okay, they changed some key parts of the premise and one of the people who came up with the idea doesn't know what "fairy tale" means. That's very annoying. I can see why it would make you not enjoy the movie. I don't see how it makes the movie a crime against humanity.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-29 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kinda surprised too. I though people would agree that it was at best mediocre and not give it that much thought.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-03-30 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
The Oz series was Kinda a Big Deal in that it had female protagonists and antagonists having adventures and being the main characters, in a time and genre where women were most always 2-dimentional side characters and prizes. The author was a very staunch feminist that felt women and girls were underrepresented and needed more stories about them.

So to then make the Oz story about a man, and to flat-out say "there aren't enough fairy tales and fantasy stories with male protagonists, so we made this one," is... pretty insulting.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-30 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
But this isn't based on the Oz series, not really. It's based on the same single solitary book and the movie based on that, which had one female protagonist who was the moral and motivational center of an otherwise-male party, one female antagonist with a bunch of flunkies, a couple of female supporting players who did very little that was useful, and the Wizard, who was admittedly even less useful.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-30 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's not making the Oz story "about a man." It's a story set IN the world of Oz about a specific character--the Wizard, who happens to be male. That's not a bad thing. It's okay for a male character to have his own movie even if most of the other Oz movies/books/etc are around women.

The movie sucks, sure, but the fact that it's about the Wizard has nothing to do with it.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-30 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Cry moar bitch
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[personal profile] visp 2013-03-30 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* I'm not too invested in it either way, but that doesn't mean I can't see that pissing off both Oz purists and feminists was going to end badly. It's like if you remade Lord of the Rings with Jason Statham as Frodo, punching and screwing his way through Middle Earth. People gonna be pissed.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-03-30 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? don't bother trying to appease and justify yourself to the person trolling you and calling you a bitch for caring about this.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-03-30 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
True, sometimes you just have to walk away.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-30 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
if you remade Lord of the Rings with Jason Statham as Frodo, punching and screwing his way through Middle Earth.

I... would pay good money to see that. It sounds hilarious.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-03-30 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehe, yeah, I could see a good SNL sketch coming from it.
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-30 05:00 am (UTC)(link)

How would you imagine making an origin movie about the Wizard of Oz character and not have it be about the actual character, who is a man?

I really can't see how that would work... unless you think that he should've been a minor character in his own origin story. And again, how would that work?
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[personal profile] dragonimp 2013-03-30 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think the issue is that they seem to have hunted through the Oz series and picked the one book with a male protagonist.

IDK, I'm only watching this from the sidelines.
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-30 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)

I think the issue is that they seem to have hunted through the Oz series and picked the one book with a male protagonist.

I'm hoping that since this one has done so well, they'll make more based on the other books.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-30 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, it's less about glorifying the Wizard--yeah, he's the main character of his own origin story, obviously--and more about diminishing the roles of the women of Oz to "girls he flirts with".
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-31 02:02 am (UTC)(link)

I can't argue with that.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-03-30 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
But why make the story about him in the first place?

(Anonymous) 2013-03-30 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I always found the Wizard the character I wanted to know most about, who we never had the opportunity to.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-30 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I've said it before but I wouldn't mind reading a short story about him and how he came to Oz. I just don't it would have made a good movie.
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2013-03-31 02:03 am (UTC)(link)

Why not?

(Anonymous) 2013-03-31 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
...because he's the wizard? of oz? the guy's name has been in the title from the get go, it's not a stretch that someone would go hmm what's the story like from that pov? It's not the first series to do that. Isn't that how Wicked came about? that Snow White movie jut now with twilight girl, I got the impression it was that kind of thing too