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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-31 03:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2280 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2280 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
IDK. I say this with all sincerity, I wonder if the reason my knee-jerk reaction to this blog is disdain is because it's a gay ship it's making fun of.

Like, if it were a blog mocking the Twihards for thinking Edward and Bela were the most super healthy romantic relationship ever, I'd be laughing. But because it's a gay ship, I think I'm a little more defensive on principle, even though from what I've heard, the ship is pretty icky and the fans are ridiculously ott (disclaimer: I've never seen the show).

In conclusion: The mocking makes me uncomfortable, but I think it's more that I subconsciously suspect it's either about ship wars or homophobia.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's homophobia. The person who runs this blog spends a good amount of time pointing out (rightfully, imo) how Sterek shippers tend to ignore the only canonically gay character on the show, Danny, in favourite of their white guy ship.
Which is one of my least favourite things that I have seen from Sterek fandom. That and the ignoring and mockery of the actual main character of the show, Scott. Oh hey look both Danny and Scott aren't white, woops.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

I agree on some points the blog makes on Danny and Scott, but most of it is done in a really tasteless way. First of all, gay people aren't interchangeable. That's just a really gross thing about the "rebuttle" over Sterek shippers. Yes, I think it's gross that Sterek shippers completely ignore Danny, and some go beyond into anger over Danny getting attention(wtf?) but when people say "here, there is some gay in it for you!" like all anybody wants to see is an extremely minor character be used and manipulated by a gross, semmingly sociopathic villain.

I think it is bullshit that so many say things like "We want A RELATIONSHIP!!" because, just be honest, you love the sex aspect. And it's also not even shameful to enjoy the sex aspect. I don't see what's wrong with that.

But a lot of what this blog says does come across homophobic. They make the points about Danny because they know it will gain them support from fellow anti-Sterek people. But they never really back that up with interest. A true method to promoting sane behavior when it comes to gay characters would be to get enthusiasm over Danny, make posts about him, dedicate a blog to him, make art for him.

Not use him as an ending point over why Sterek is disgusting and all these people are insane.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
da

the things you are taking issue with like but when people say "here, there is some gay in it for you!" like all anybody wants to see is an extremely minor character be used and manipulated by a gross, semmingly sociopathic villain. - this blog does not do that. I don't understand what you are referring to here? we seem to be in agreement that it's sensible to point out the extent to which sterek fans calling for ~representation ignore the actual queer character.

I really hate the 'oh if you really cared you'd promote X instead of tearing down Y!' argument because saying that misses the point of how fandom operates a lot of the time & feels like derailing. Most times you can't effectively promote X because of how Y dominates. Of course there are people trying dedicate to Danny, to promote him, to get Jeff to develop him, but they are thwarted by the straight white slash ship. That's when you make a blog exposing that. He is an example of how disgusting sterek shippers can get. That's not homophobia.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-01 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe. I don't know if you watch glee (don't) but there's a queer girl couple that's got major problems that I wish less people would glorify, but at the same time I cut them some slack since a couple like that is so much harder to come by. So I get you.
But even though I do it myself I think it's a bad practice to let a queer ship get away with more because it's queer.

But uh yea the ship and the fans are pretty icky. You will actually find more homophobia within it than against it.